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#1 edenstrauss

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 12:44 AM

Hi folks,


I've narrowed down to 3 brands of WC (water closets aka toilet bowls):

a) Maclaire

b) Johnson Suisse

c) Rigel


Any idea which one would last longer? For replacement of my 15-yr old Potex toilet bowl which is supplied by HDB.

Edited by edenstrauss, 15 February 2011 - 12:45 AM.


    

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 09:28 AM

I thought you had decided to use Maclaire?

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 09:47 AM

Yes initially, I wanted to get Maclaire.

But I found out that their WC is made in China.

That common toilet with this new WC is going to be used by both visitors and tenants. If they squat on top of the WC, we are concerned that the WC will crack. And even if we tell them that they are not supposed to squat on top of the WC, there is no stopping them from doing so when the doors are closed. unsure.gif

Any idea if Maclaire's WC could withstand squatting even though it's made in China?

Moreover, if the Geberit flushing mechanism needs replacement through wear and tear over time, replacement would cost probabbly cost more than $100. A friend of ours replaced hers at $150.

Johnson Suisse WC is made in Malaysia.

Rigel's is made in their own China factory and the sales rep told me that the flushing mechanism could be easily replaced by generic ones in hardware shop, so I thought that it's an average mechanism "so-so"... $200 a piece but self collection.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 09:56 AM

get a metal one. Like those you find in china train.

Confirm will not crack.

To me, WC is WC.

No such thing call lasting.
Lasting mean.. company less business. biggrin.gif

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Any idea if Maclaire's WC could withstand squatting even though it's made in China?

Don't know.
1st I don't knnow Maclaire's WC is made in China
2nd, I don't squat at home la tongue.gif
3rd, now.. which or what thing is not made in china.

Then u better don't buy new HDB.. b'coz now HDB contractor is China company.
Bishan that EC or DBSS is also china company.
$750k for a 5 room flat. super ex

My thought same as begof,
WC is WC

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:02 AM

Yah, WC is WC. Unless you take a sledgehammer to it. What's more likely to go first is the flushing mechanism, as you yourself mentioned. So getting one with a simple/generic flushing mechanism will save on replacement cost.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 01:07 PM

QUOTE (edenstrauss @ Feb 15 2011, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes initially, I wanted to get Maclaire.

But I found out that their WC is made in China.

That common toilet with this new WC is going to be used by both visitors and tenants. If they squat on top of the WC, we are concerned that the WC will crack. And even if we tell them that they are not supposed to squat on top of the WC, there is no stopping them from doing so when the doors are closed. unsure.gif

Any idea if Maclaire's WC could withstand squatting even though it's made in China?

Moreover, if the Geberit flushing mechanism needs replacement through wear and tear over time, replacement would cost probabbly cost more than $100. A friend of ours replaced hers at $150.

Johnson Suisse WC is made in Malaysia.

Rigel's is made in their own China factory and the sales rep told me that the flushing mechanism could be easily replaced by generic ones in hardware shop, so I thought that it's an average mechanism "so-so"... $200 a piece but self collection.


I don't think toilet bowls will crack if someone squats on it. It probably will crack only if someone drops something heavy into it (e.g. if you have a bidet and it's made of metal and someone accidentally drops the bidet inside the bowl / or if the toilet seat cover comes crashing down on the top of the toilet bowl repeatedly over time)

By right, the toilet bowl shouldn't crack even if you squat on it because it is meant to take the full weight of a person (e.g. when you sit on the bowl, your full weight is also on the bowl, no different from squatting).

Squatting on toilet bowl will just make your toilet a mess coz there'll be piss and poo all over the place biggrin.gif





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Posted 15 February 2011 - 08:14 PM

Hi everyone,


thanks for your advice & opinion smile.gif makes me laugh at how the poo-poo & urine would be littered all over the WC ... hahahaha

but I would be most happy if the rest of you have other inputs about WC biggrin.gif

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:55 PM

I bought the Lucia brand WC from Excel Asia. An Italian brand but probably made in China!

Don't buy those WC with cover plate which closes down slowly & automatically type. Your tenant may not have the patience to wait for the cover plate to close down slowly. They might push the cover violently & spoilt the closing mechanism.

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Posted 15 February 2011 - 11:56 PM

I bought the Lucia brand WC from Excel Asia. An Italian brand but probably made in China!

Don't buy those WC with cover plate which closes down slowly & automatically type. Your tenant may not have the patience to wait for the cover plate to close down slowly. They might push the cover violently & spoilt the closing mechanism.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 11:13 PM

Ok thanks mae29 smile.gif

I'll check out your brand of WC lucia... biggrin.gif

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE (edenstrauss @ Feb 22 2011, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok thanks mae29 smile.gif

I'll check out your brand of WC lucia... biggrin.gif



Firstly, are there people still squatting on toilets when now most toilets are the seated kind? I can understand if women in public toilets do not seat on them. But at home, why squat when one can seat? Isn't that more ergonomical? haha If you are worried of cracking or damage to the closet, don't use wall hung. Use one that has a big flat base. I doubt ceramic will break when a larger person sits on it. Mostly seat covers will break and they are easily replaceable.

Personally I have heard of one person complaining problems using one of the above brands you have mentioned. I am avoiding that.

Geberit systems are one of the best flushing systems. One flush is all you need to do, unlike many others where you have to flush twice. One of my criterias in purchasing my water closet is that it must be Geberit. Personally I have not tried, but the many feedback I get from them, it seems they are very good.



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Posted 26 February 2011 - 12:22 AM

Hi EmptyDivided,


thanks for your comments smile.gif

Well, we have tenants who will be using the WC. We can tell them that they are not supposed to squat on WC but nobody knows what those folks would do when they enter the toilet & close the doors.

And we certainly cannot spy on them! tongue.gif

A friend of mine suggested that we casually tell them a joke while showing them into the toilet during the orientation, that somebody squat ontop & ended up getting sewed up in the hospital when the WC cracked. And how the ambulance came & half the block being alerted. hahahaha... to add on, wear a sarong for months. that was funny though... hehehehe biggrin.gif

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 09:54 AM

QUOTE (edenstrauss @ Feb 26 2011, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi EmptyDivided,


thanks for your comments smile.gif

Well, we have tenants who will be using the WC. We can tell them that they are not supposed to squat on WC but nobody knows what those folks would do when they enter the toilet & close the doors.

And we certainly cannot spy on them! tongue.gif

A friend of mine suggested that we casually tell them a joke while showing them into the toilet during the orientation, that somebody squat ontop & ended up getting sewed up in the hospital when the WC cracked. And how the ambulance came & half the block being alerted. hahahaha... to add on, wear a sarong for months. that was funny though... hehehehe biggrin.gif


Haha that sounds like a good game plan to discourage them. Put pictures on back of the toilet door to demostrate on how the toilet is to be used and sat upon. Then write a disclaimer to safekeep yourself from their strange habits.

"Bomb" proof WC.. http://www.infolink....-Britex-n778575 This I doubt will break.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:31 AM

kekekeke, that's a really good one!
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Yeah maybe I should do just what u suggested smile.gif thanks for the great idea!

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 07:53 AM

Has anybody heard of this other brand (known as "CP-UNO") carried by Lucky Khoon at Joo Chiat? If I didn't recall wrongly, it is about $200+ including installation.

If you have, please share your feedback & review on this brand... I'm in the midst of getting a new WC finally :P

But still not sure if the flushing mechanism is strong enough.

Both my hubby & myself liked the one piece LUCIA which came with a rectangular set of flushing buttons, which would cost above $300 including installation.

If any of those parts spoil later on, we'll may have issues buying a generic replacement as the flushing buttons are normally round in hardware stores. And since the toilet flooring is already 16-18 years old, the new WC would have to go if the ceiling below our unit starts to leak... then need to buy another WC.

hmmmmm... :unsure:

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:42 PM

let me share my experience regarding this toilet bowl i'm not really sure that it is baron or magnum,install already but forgot what's the brand but i bought it @ upper serangoon road,let me go home and check my wc brand for you guys, but i still remember the website, it's www.besttoiletbowl.com this wc is a very short piece, the good thing is i order this tru email and it really saves a lot of time for me & some money coz their giving some promotion if tru email.that time the discount $20 per toiletbowl i'm not sure if they still have this promotion. :)

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 10:47 PM

Nowadays most brand of wc are come from China, even some well know faucet maker also placed some of their factory in China. Actually "brand" is a tricky thing, u can say anything of that brand come from, we not really going to find out how true is it, the most important thing I think is important is about that brand reputation and that company servicing. Friend of mine bought a wc from 1 of the shops in balestier, even the price is cheap but he found out the after service is sucked, he complained that better spent more buck to get a better service company. Lucky Khoon i heard they specialize in plumbing thing so far i know their service is not so bad.

Maclaire definately came from China, Johnson from malaysia, Rigel i not very sure. CP-Uno also China, I heard that actually is clone from another brand in singapore that not so famous, should be fine if you like the design.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:49 AM

Nowadays most brand of wc are come from China, even some well know faucet maker also placed some of their factory in China. Actually "brand" is a tricky thing, u can say anything of that brand come from, we not really going to find out how true is it, the most important thing I think is important is about that brand reputation and that company servicing. Friend of mine bought a wc from 1 of the shops in balestier, even the price is cheap but he found out the after service is sucked, he complained that better spent more buck to get a better service company. Lucky Khoon i heard they specialize in plumbing thing so far i know their service is not so bad.

Maclaire definately came from China, Johnson from malaysia, Rigel i not very sure. CP-Uno also China, I heard that actually is clone from another brand in singapore that not so famous, should be fine if you like the design.


Hi,

thank you so much for your advice.

It is true that CP-Uno is from China but we're worried about how strong the flushing mechanism is. And whether the model is prone to chokes or not. My uncle has 5 Ottos in his bungalows, which he claimed sucks big time becox he needs to fill up a huge bucket of water & flush down the contents in the toilet bowl - Urgh! :(

Actually, my hubby & myself liked another inhouse brand by Lucky Khoon, which is known as Lucia.

But the flushing buttons were rectangular in shape, meaning that replacement might jux be a problem if Lucky Khoon discontinues selling its parts. The generic versions are all round-shaped. And since we're sharing our WC with a tenant, we felt that we should jux go for something reasonably priced with relatively good flushing mechanism.

We won't consider Geberit systems. It's pointless when we've got tenants at home.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 04:01 PM

Hi folks,

I've finally settled down on a POTEX toilet bowl from Lucky Khoon.

The design is errrr, very old-fashioned but the seating area is the most comfortable as it's large enough to accomodate those who are bottom-heavy. :P

And should the toilet seat crack, we could easily get it replaced with cheap versions... no point getting expensive stuff when there are tenants around.

We were almost going to purchase the one-piece Lucia with rectangular buttons but held back becox the buttons couldn't be found in hardware shops easily. And the rectangular buttons & flushing mechanism comes in a set at a price of almost $60 should replacement be required. The toilet bowl for Lucia models are also alot narrower unlike POTEX.

Wish me luck when the installer comes by to install the WC for us this week :)

Will upload photos of the process. hopefully the POTEX WC is in good condition, not one that's deformed or had hairline cracks now that POTEX Singapore has already liquidated.

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 01:40 AM

U have to personally sit on the WC to feel whether its good.. if since ur using it for tenants and some guest.. might as well get a nice design and a cheap one instead.. WC is just a WC...

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 05:11 PM

U have to personally sit on the WC to feel whether its good.. if since ur using it for tenants and some guest.. might as well get a nice design and a cheap one instead.. WC is just a WC...


Hi Synchron,

U're right: A WC is simply a WC; so long as it serves its purpose, then it's probabbly good enough :P

I've completed editing my photographs & videos on the WC in action while we flushed it. Would be uploading it soon :D

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 11:15 PM

Hi folks,


I've decided to close off this thread becox I've finally had a new WC installed.

Please visit my new thread on our new POTEX toilet bowl by Lucky Khoon at the following link:
http://www.renotalk....78

Thank you for your support! :D




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