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#1 whoelse

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 12:48 AM

Hi, I am consider engaging ICI painting package for 5-rm at $1400 (5 color). If I would to paint myself with the same amount of work regardless of how good the paint result, what will be the labour cost saving I will save out of the $1400 roughly?

    

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 11:59 AM

think depends on how many coats you are looking at and at what price you can get the paint...

$1400 is expensive for 5-rm, barang barang is offering $1350 for EA but for a limited period only...

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 01:13 PM

think depends on how many coats you are looking at and at what price you can get the paint...

$1400 is expensive for 5-rm, barang barang is offering $1350 for EA but for a limited period only...


depending on the quality of the paint also and the amt of coats needed.. (min 2 coats)
as a guide, 1 bedroom need 1x5l for 2 coats
living -2-3 5l cans
each 5L can is $50

so total cost including equipment will be around 500-600...

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 02:55 PM

Hi, I am consider engaging ICI painting package for 5-rm at $1400 (5 color). If I would to paint myself with the same amount of work regardless of how good the paint result, what will be the labour cost saving I will save out of the $1400 roughly?


20L white paint to whitewash the whole house (min 2 coats of paint) - $52
1 bedroom approximately requires 7L ( 5L X 2 ) - 50ish
Kitchen - 5L
Dining & Balcony - 5L
Yard - 5L

We bought some paints from the DIY shop @ Ikea and we were given discount. The rest from NGH which also gave further discount. Total spent inclusive of the painting tools was approximately 380ish.

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 09:39 AM

Hi, I am consider engaging ICI painting package for 5-rm at $1400 (5 color). If I would to paint myself with the same amount of work regardless of how good the paint result, what will be the labour cost saving I will save out of the $1400 roughly?

im using nippon super vinlix 5000 paint. 7can of 5L to paint my EA unit (130sqm)
each can $34, total oni $238
lighter colour i oni paint 2coating, darker colour will need at least 3-4 coating.
was quote by id $1600 for whole unit :P
3wks le, still haven finish painting. left few walls n toilet celing to go, but paint still have more den enuff :yamseng:

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Posted 11 April 2007 - 10:32 AM

remember to work in the requirements for painting your ceiling, gate, pipes and doors too. my husband and i DIY our 4rm painting and the total amount spent was less than $300, everything inclusive. we took 1 week leave and finished the paint job within the week. :yamseng:

it is very tiring, but satisfying at the same time.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 09:21 AM

Hi, I am consider engaging ICI painting package for 5-rm at $1400 (5 color). If I would to paint myself with the same amount of work regardless of how good the paint result, what will be the labour cost saving I will save out of the $1400 roughly?


I painted one room myself - 1 can of 5L is more than enough to give 3 coats. Room size is 3.75m x 3.75m.

Paint is Nippon Vinilex (cheapest brand in Nippon's range)- $36 per can. Highest end like Nippon Odourless will cost upwards of $60 per can. Depending on number of colours, you will probably spend ~200-250 on paint cost for the whole house and another $50 on accessories like roller, brush, container etc. So savings is approx 1k. But its very back-breaking especially if you are painting ceilings as well and you want to do 3-4 coats.

My advice would be for you to paint an undercoat / sealer before the real paint - that way 2 good coats of the actual paint will do - so in total 3 coats. And its better that all coats are allowed to more or less dry out before the next coat goes on.

Do you currently have furniture in the house? If you do, then its slightly more difficult...

Sammie

7L of paint for one bedroom? Including ceiling?

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 06:40 PM

just painted the ceiling of my hse ...it i sreally wise to paint at least a coat of water based sealer to it before applying 2 coats of actual paint to it.a lot easier and not so xiong since the ceiling is the hardest to paint!hehe
reason for water based sealer is because u can still dilute it with a little water for ease of painting ...same goes for the actual paint ..mix with a little water and u will have a little more strength to lift ur dinner plate tat nite ...hehe

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 07:10 PM

Well, oil based sealer can be diluted with tupertine as well - only thing is that it is a lot more work to clean off... Use only if your things and floorings are well protected or covered. I used oil-based sealer for my walls (gypsum board soundproofing with plastered joints) and quite satisfied with the result.

But do agree that the whole job can be quite siong, even with those long poles where you mount the roller at the end of it...

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 12:29 AM

yeah man agree totally ...**** siong ! hehe
anyway i used water based sealer on my gypsum partition and after 3 coats of actual paint, i still cant seem to cover the 2 tone colour due to the plastering part. Haiz...shd have tried oil based one ...

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 10:14 PM

yeah man agree totally ...**** siong ! hehe
anyway i used water based sealer on my gypsum partition and after 3 coats of actual paint, i still cant seem to cover the 2 tone colour due to the plastering part. Haiz...shd have tried oil based one ...


I used the paint quite generously for my last coat. Made sure that the roller are thick with the paint before slapping it on and didn't try to spread over too large a surface area. However, do need to roll it around a bit to ensure that the paint is even. I also did not dilute my actual paint - used it off the can after proper stirring and worked out well.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 11:22 PM

Something is troubling me and I am not sure what to do. My contractor's proposed handover date is this coming friday but there are something which I am not sure if I should accept.

My paint colour is wrong in the sense that it is lighter than what I have chosen. I have selected a ICI customised color paint but when the painter came, they brought the paint in Jotun containers and claimed that they are ICI but just in Jotun container. I am having doubt in them. What should I do? Should I press my contactor for the right colour?

Sigh...

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 09:09 AM

Hi sumobear,

Sometimes the paint on the catalogue and the final result on the wall can be rather different.

I had the experience when I picked this colour called "Carnation White" from Nippon for two of my bedrooms - looks whitish with a tinge of pink on the catalogue but turned out a lot more pinkish when painted on the walls :dunno:

Did you use a colour consultant? Personally I have not tried them but maybe they can give a better picture -those who tried colour consultants can feedback on the results.

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 10:50 AM

Almost all of the time, the paint in the catalog is different when painted on the wall. On top of that, different lighting plays a part too in creating the effect.

My parent's house was in those light blue and it was bluer than on the catalog. Even if you bought the paint yourself, the end-results will be the same.

My id also advised me on that when I choose misty from ICI, he says will be greyer than on the catalog. Maybe will add white paint to soften it :sport-smiley-004:

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 02:22 PM

Hi, my ID give me option of ICI or Nippon. Any diff between the 2 ? If I paint whole hse white, which brand better ? Grossy or Matte ?

#16 ucypmas

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Posted 17 April 2007 - 11:33 PM

No real difference between Nippon or ICI.

There are some grades which gives a slight sheen finish (I thought it looked rather nice), like Nippon's Vinyl Silk so you might want to consider that if you have a lot of downlights along the wall although its a little more expensive.

Usually full glossy paint like Nippon Bodelac are not used for walls, they are more for wooden or metal surfaces like door frames, doors, metal gates etc.

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Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:49 AM

Thanks. my ID suggest to use matte for wall, so easy to touch up next time. Think ceiling can use grossy finish so more "reflection".

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 11:50 PM

hi all, just wondering how shall I get started if I want to DIY painting a brand new flat?

I noticed the walls has a layer of powder, everytime I touch it, my fingers will gets those white powder.

Do we need to wash the wall first or something like that?

and why do you need to dilute the paint with water? I was told by both Nippon and ICI that we shall not add water to the water base paint, especially the top end one, $60 per 10l can type.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 12:06 AM

hi all, just wondering how shall I get started if I want to DIY painting a brand new flat?

I noticed the walls has a layer of powder, everytime I touch it, my fingers will gets those white powder.

Do we need to wash the wall first or something like that?

and why do you need to dilute the paint with water? I was told by both Nippon and ICI that we shall not add water to the water base paint, especially the top end one, $60 per 10l can type.


Those are construction dust. No need to wash - just a wet cloth and go over it if you have the time. Otherwise a duster will do.

For the emulsion paints, please don't dilute with water esp the stronger colors. You will have a tough time getting it to blend evenly and when applied to the walls, will need additional coats just to make it look good. Stick to the original formulation and 2 good coats will probably do the job. If your original paint is not white, then you may need a base sealer coat so that you don't have to do 3-4 coats just to cover the base paint layer.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 10:01 AM

hi all, just wondering how shall I get started if I want to DIY painting a brand new flat?

I noticed the walls has a layer of powder, everytime I touch it, my fingers will gets those white powder.

Do we need to wash the wall first or something like that?

and why do you need to dilute the paint with water? I was told by both Nippon and ICI that we shall not add water to the water base paint, especially the top end one, $60 per 10l can type.


wipe with wet cloth to remove the dust/powder then continue with sealer coat first before you paint with your desired paint

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 01:51 PM

wah like that ah, then i need to ask my contractor to do chemical wash first hoh?

luckily no skirting installed, will be using laminate skirting :lol:

kamsia, everybody!

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 09:49 PM

wah like that ah, then i need to ask my contractor to do chemical wash first hoh?


Simi chemical wash? Those are for floors (or tiled walls), not bare walls.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 11:17 PM

Something is troubling me and I am not sure what to do. My contractor's proposed handover date is this coming friday but there are something which I am not sure if I should accept.

My paint colour is wrong in the sense that it is lighter than what I have chosen. I have selected a ICI customised color paint but when the painter came, they brought the paint in Jotun containers and claimed that they are ICI but just in Jotun container. I am having doubt in them. What should I do? Should I press my contactor for the right colour?

Sigh...


Doesn't make sense, why wasn't the ICI paint in the ICI container but in Jotun container? Were they trying to pull a fast one? You should have taken photos that time and ask for an explanation, if you specifically asked for ICI and a certain color, it should be fulfilled instead of giving you some other brand/color.

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 09:12 AM

Simi chemical wash? Those are for floors (or tiled walls), not bare walls.


I meant do chemical wash on the floor lah, or shall I wait til painting finished then ask him to do? shall I put cardboard during painting? my skirting are not up yet, after laminate flooring then up together with the laminate skirting.

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 02:27 PM

I meant do chemical wash on the floor lah, or shall I wait til painting finished then ask him to do? shall I put cardboard during painting? my skirting are not up yet, after laminate flooring then up together with the laminate skirting.


Its easier with cardboard flooring - you won't have to "hold back" when doing the painting with the flooring well protected. Usually there's some fine spray droplets when you use the roller on the walls.

One full roll cost 80-100 bucks and enough to cover the whole house.

I am not too sure of the status of your flooring - it can be quite difficult and tedious to scrap paint droplets off the floor so if the flooring is already done then it may be worth putting some protection on it before you start painting. Otherwise if its cement screeding and you're going to parquet it, then no need protection and just whack lar.

Suggest that you chemical wash after all the dirty stuff is done.

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 06:15 PM

$80-100 so cheap? my contractor charge me $150, but that includes the labour for sealing up the whole floor lah

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 09:25 PM

$80-100 so cheap? my contractor charge me $150, but that includes the labour for sealing up the whole floor lah

Those contractor hardware shops at Geylang sell the roll for about 80-100 depending on how much things you get from them and your bargaining... maybe if you drive a pickup and look more beng they'll give it to you cheaper ;)

#28 tingshen

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Posted 24 April 2007 - 10:11 PM

a bit tough leh, no pick up but only got 2 proton from my mum....can squeeze inside?

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 07:47 AM

previously diy e painting for my 3rm flat, sand lightly on the newly plastered wall, applied a layer of Sealant on the newly plastered walls, painted with 2 to 3 layers, terrible!:( almost died of fatigue, don think i will ever wanna diy to save the few hundred dollars next time. 8|

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Posted 25 April 2007 - 11:54 PM

a bit tough leh, no pick up but only got 2 proton from my mum....can squeeze inside?


Should be able to fit into the back seat of a normal sedan. I estimate the diameter of the roll is around 20inches and height maybe around 45 inches.

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 12:29 AM

is engaging ICI/Nippon direct cheaper than those ID? is there any quality assurance from direct?

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 09:02 AM

is engaging ICI/Nippon direct cheaper than those ID? is there any quality assurance from direct?


Price is about the same (or slightly more expensive) but they will not "jiak" your paint.

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Posted 27 April 2007 - 09:28 AM

haha, hard to say, dunno if they outsource or really have in house painter leh......."jiak" paint is to make the job easier right?

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 10:53 PM

So for a 5 room flat:

1 tin if sealer approx 20l enuff? how much is the cost?

3 tin of paint for 3 bedroom each tine ~ $38? so 3x38=$114

2 tins for living and dining so $76?

and plus all celings including 3x bedrooms, living, dining, toilet kitchen, storeroom ? 3 tins enuff?

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Posted 20 May 2007 - 12:45 AM

Thinking of Diy painting my whole house too.. need some advice:

1) What is the main difference between oil based and water based sealer? Not sure which one to use?

2) And do I need to mix my paint with water before painting? Or can just paint straight from the tin?

Thks!

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 11:19 PM

I got a quote from a painter contractor:

he charging me $1050 for 3 coats of paint - 1 sealer + 2 layer of nippon medifresh washable paint and include 4x door painting + gate painting.

He said he will bring the paint up and put in my house b4 he start painting, ask me not to worry he wun cheat one :lol:

i find the quotation very attractive as the cheapest i can find outside is 1.2k for painting all the above. normal ID will charge 1.3-1.4k

What u guys think i should do to make sure i get the real deal? any comments? :notti:

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 06:43 PM

For my 5 room flat, me and my wife DIY the painting,
total paint used

1) 2 X 7litre sealer ($16 each)
2) 2 X 5litre Nippon medifresh ($50+ each, forget the price) living room
3) 3 x 5 litre Nippon ordorless ($57 each) 2bedroom, 1MBR
4) 1 x 1litre Nippon ordorless ($15, bought extra)

total cost : around $330

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 08:37 PM

Hi, I am consider engaging ICI painting package for 5-rm at $1400 (5 color). If I would to paint myself with the same amount of work regardless of how good the paint result, what will be the labour cost saving I will save out of the $1400 roughly?



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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:20 AM

I have paid $1600 for to paint the whole house. I calculated they painted 7 layer all in all for my red wall and 5 coating for some darker wall. :P 2 painter each time. They took a total of 4 work days to complete the whole process. My previous house me and my hubby painted the house on our own and almost give up half way. !! To much time consume and the result is yuck. :) We find it not worth to take time off to do this paint job which take use nearly 8 days to complete. If we go to work, we are earning much much much more than that price. :sport-smiley-018: Do the math and sometime thing like this is better to be left for the professional. :)

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Posted 02 July 2007 - 12:25 PM

i did painting ourselves too, and its a horrible thing to do! nvr ever do it urself.
one way of saving cost is to go to the new hsing estates and check out which unit is doing painting works.
ask a quotation from these workers as even barang barang/contractors out-source the painting jobs to them. plus u can check out their work b4 even asking for quotations.....

wished i had done tat myself..... :dancingqueen:




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