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  1. Posted

    Hi everybody,

    finally went thru all 12 pages of this thread

    could not seem to find the info I want

    I am looking for an oven with steam function

    something like Bosch HBC36D753B

    however, does anybody know if there is one with same functions but bigger cavity??

    any advise appreciated

    thanks

    Premium german brand Miele has a combi-steam oven, with the lastest moisture plus function. This is the website

    http://www.miele.sg/sg/domestic/products/s...combi_16125.htm

  3. Posted

    If one were to read my comparison carefully, nowhere did I put down the Miele washer. Rather, I was merely pointing out another route of decision-making that some consumers may take or consider. And in truth, I would also pursue this course of purchasing action versus paying $4k for a washer that theoretically could last me 20 years. Yes, I would rather go through 3-4 machines during the course of that 20 years, than be using the same washer for the whole 20 years.

    In fact, who is to say that the other brands won't last 20 years? My very first washer, a Hoover, lasted me 10 years, in which I had moved house 3 times, each time without using the attached bolts to secure the drum in place before moving. It would have lasted longer had my 4th residence not already have a washer and had no space for a 2nd washer. I donated my Hoover to the Salvation Army and their guys who came to collect it even asked if I was sure I wanted to donate it. They had commented that its condition was still so good, they were sure I could continue to use it for a few more years. Mind you, I'm the lazy type. I don't clean, wipe down, or maintain most of my appliances. And I had paid only $1k for the Hoover.

    So assuming it only lasted me 10 yrs, and a Miele lasts 20 yrs, I would have gone through 2 Hoovers, costing me $2k. Still, I would have saved $2k overall. Would I want to do that? Certainly!

    As for being gentle with the clothes put into the washer, many other brands also have gentle wash programmes where silk and other exotic materials can be put into the wash and come out clean, and un-damaged.

    Your assertion that the Miele is the BEST washer shows that you are already biased. How can one claim that something is the best without considering the various standards of measurement? On what basis is the Miele the best?

    If the standard used is price, then the cheapest washer is the best. If the standard used is physical size, then the biggest washer is the best. If the standard used is capacity, then the washer which has the heaviest washing capacity is the best. If the standard used is the quantity of water used per normal wash cycle, then perhaps the Miele is the best, judging by the question raised by one of the users here. So on and so forth.

    Therefore, my good sir, I stand by my comparison and my earlier assertion that I am neither promoting nor putting any brand down. Merely, putting across another perspective. One which is just as valid, I believe.

    Your vehement support for and assertion that the Miele is the BEST washer, without due consideration given to the merits of other washers or to the possible perspectives of other consumers, leads one to wonder if you are not just a Miele user, but also a Miele staff.

    Dear Sir, I'm only stating my opinion on the matter, and my opinionated based judgement that miele are the best around is also just that. I'm sorry that my fervour for miele has so offended u like so many others before u. I dont think the crux of the matter is whether im a miele employeee, just because i loved the washers so much, but whether the arguments that paying so much for a miele is worth it.

    In an opinion-based forum, im just stating the reasons y i think miele is the best currently in the market. I derived alot from forums like moneysavingexpert.com and washerhelp.co.uk

    The technicians over there have rated miele as the best washing machine brand to buy unbiasly, so they must be miele employees as well?The case is that in the UK, some ppl find external repairs on their faulty appliances, and there is a body to regulate that. In fact washerhelp should hate miele because they can't repair miele washers as miele has did a synchronisation on their machines so that no external repairman can do repairs except miele's own technicians. But in concluding that they hate this practice, they acknowledged that Miele is still the only manufacturer to build a really quality washing machine, not engaging in price wars with other manufacturers to sell a cheaper washer, ultimately buying each other out in an eventuality that alot of brands are owned by the few same companies. Maybe u can check out this article..http://www.washerhelp.co.uk/reviews/miele-overview.html

    On the question that whether im a miele employee or not, i shall just leave it to ur own conclusions..

  4. Posted

    Actually all front- loaders are not supposed to handle coins, screws and sharp objects.. Whether its a miele or any other brands. The previous experiences where nothing happened, i can only constitute them to luck. And i guess the warranties really do not cover user faults.

    However i am dishearten to hear of ur bad experience with the customer service, and i fully agree that if u buy a pricey product, a fully satisfactory after-sales service is a must.

  6. Posted

    hmm.....just wanna express my humble opinion here. not supporting or putting any brand down, but just trying to put some perspective into this.

    $3k-$4k for a Miele front-loading washing machine:

    1) how long will the machine last?

    2) will the clothes washed in it last forever?

    3) will the colours of the clothes washed in it never fade?

    4) does it use significantly less water per normal wash cycle?

    5) does it consume significantly less electricity during each normal wash cycle?

    versus

    $700-$800 for a typical Jap, Korean or European front-loading washing machine:

    Assuming the Miele washer costs $3.5k -> 3500 / 700 = 5.

    So for every Miele washer, one can possibly buy 4-5 other similar competing washers. Assuming these similar washers each last an average of 4 years of normal usage, the Miele washer has to last 16-20 years of normal usage. By the 10th year, I'm sure washer technology would have advanced such that it would be rendered obsolete, or at the very least, the new washers would have better features, better technologies, greener technologies, and consume less resources to operate.

    Would I then buy the Miele washer? Hmm..... :unsure:

    Hi sir,

    To answer ur question, maybe let me clarified that there are customers using a miele for more than 20 yrs, but there are a few lemons as well. So its not a question of lifespan worthiness , by dividing into how many cheap washers can u buy. Miele is all about gentle laundry care, superior built quality, ease of use and environmentally friendliness.

    Yes, i believe miele, under normal usage can easily last 20 yrs, or its claims for that will be a laughing stock across the world. People who know this brand synonyms them with quality. It dont come easy, or else , how can they be so independant, family- owned for 111 yrs?Things u threw into a laundry room are not meant to be a fashion statement. They are not ur lumborghinis or bmws, just a washing machine. But why do people who wants quality go for miele? Why not subscribe to ur point of view and buy cheap machines and replace them every yr?

    The answer is the same. Quality. Peace of mind that the delicate laundry will come out fine. Less hand-washing of silks, wools . Perfect customer care, the knowledge that all spare parts are guaranteed available for 15 yrs after end of production.Do u know that few brands in the market offer that guarantee? Do u know that all miele machines come with a PC update facility that offers customer an update of programs should a better program or washing rythm be developed in future?

    Yes a cheap machine can cost as low as $300 odd. But i doubt u'll be throwing in ur cashmere wool in to wash? u'll be deciding what goes into a washing machine and what can't. Then there are machines that dont break down completely, just that it needs alot of service calls, to replace so much parts untill replacing the faulty parts cost more than the machines that u will replace it with a frown eventually..

    In all fairness, i doubt miele is a super machine that will never break down. Its still electrical, anything can happen,, It might be a gd value for some, and not a necessity for some. But do pardon me, its very unfair to and dismissive to equate the best washing machine in the market, with these simple mathematical evaluations on its value.

  7. Posted

    Question for Miele users:

    When I used the Cotton or Minimum Iron or Express wash programme, the clothes were thoroughly soaked but I couldn't see the water level (during main wash). Almost as though it was "dry" washing? Is that normal? I am not used to the idea of washing in this manner... For other brands of front load washer I usually see half the drum is filled with water. For Miele, the only time I saw the clothes items totally submerged in water was for the Lingerie/Silk programme.

    It is the intelligent washing rythm taking place.The water usage for miele is so incredibly low, alot of people are not used to it, esp when they have just migrated from a asian top loader. Its because ur cottons are alreadty soaked, it makes use of the lifting of the clothes by the lifter bars to actually induce the rythm effect. Don't worry, the washing rythm is patented, that means ur clothes will come out cleaner, regardless od the amount of water use. however if u r still uncomfortable, u can use the add water function on the side bars as well. If in doubt call the customer hotline, they will b able to answer to ur queries.Hope this helps.

  8. Posted

    Hi

    Hubby and i saw the subzero fridge too. Very very nice but terribly expensive. Cani know where you saw it and how much? We went to Kitchen Culture at Leng Kee and yes, it is very expensive but so drool worthy :)

    Sub-zero is one of the best brands for fridges , and also one of the most expensive in the market. They specialises only in fridges and wine coolers. I think its hard to get discounts for these high-end brands... U can check out Gaggenau and also the miele mastercool range too,equally as nice. Miele just launched the exclusive Mastercool range in sg.

  9. Posted

    check this unhappy blogger for Miele....

    http://www.waleedhanafi.com/2009/04/miele-...-all-costs.html

    For all other miele posts, this blog has been digged out by some users wherever they want to bash up this brand. I must say they r quite efficient because by googling the name miele on the web, this is the only unhappy blog ive managed to find... As a business, i've believed all businesses received complaints, i wouldnt say miele is perfect. But surprisingly in the whole wide web, u google all the complaints of any major consumer brands, see whether there is anyone without complaints? I did an experiment, lets say a korean electronics brand, the pages come up to more than 10.

    There u have it.. I might be unhappy with miele one day. But services aside, i will still say, no other brand come close so far in terms of quality and technology.

  10. Posted

    personally, i think Miele is over rated by all the ads & hype.

    I'm still going for a Dyson which is cheaper but does the same work.

    u can get a gd miele for around sgd$500 or less. the cheapest dyson costs around sgd $600. I didnt say dyson is crap or else it wouldnt cost so much, but for canister models, i prefer a miele.Dyson preyed on the no running costs hype, but if i'm allegic, i dun believe a hepa filter can b permanent. and also, the sponge filter needs only to b washed? Wouldnt the sponge thin out over time? And for built quality, do u know that Miele is 100% made in germany, by itself, with 80% in house parts, whereas for an expensive dyson, the motor is made by a singapore company, while the parts are made in johore, malaysia? The reason why i think allergy sufferers are more suitable using miele is because of the 100% sealed system a miele provides. Ultimately u r still releasing allergens to the atmosphere when u empty the bin in a bagless vacuum cleaner. Some ppl are happy with it, because they dun suffer from allergies. My mum is happy with the broom, even though allergens are being passed from corners to corners when she sweeps the floor.

    There is a water-based brand called "rainbow" which is magnificent. The lady came by, did a free cleaning at my place. I was impressed. But the price tag is around $3k. Some ppl swear by it, it lasts long, clean well. But some are stumped by the price tag, some are fed up with the maintenance, and some hate the sound and weight.

    That is why there r so many brands for u to choose from. But ultimately, what is the quality u r loking at? For me, it must b an effective, hepa-sealed vacuum, quiet, easy to handle and durable. Thats why is Miele is the choice when u compared all other brands.

  12. Posted

    I saw those products selling in NTUC specially used to clean washing machines

    U need to do that only when u seldom use hot water washes, and also u use detergent or softeners with oil-based, fat contents. U just need to do a wash with an empty load , prefably a cottons program and set the temp to 95 deg. That will do!

  14. Posted

    wow :o :o the most expensive brand i have seen so far

    Hi Dave, u r right, miele is by far the most expensive brand in the market. Thats why when miele launched promotion sets like these, and the previous homecare series, it is usually snapped up very fast. Because if u've studied miele's brand history, they hardly have any discounts and promotions.

    They are widely regarded as the best domestic brand in the market,( references: which? consumer body, watchdog in uk has rated miele the best brand for the 3rd consecutive yr), as well as one of the most expensive, due to its stringent built qualities( a washer is expected to last up to 20yrs) , gentlest laundry care,( its patented honeycomb drum can even wash roses in a delicate program and the petals stay intact, which means ur silks, cashmeres can b safely put in to wash), and also its environment care. It has the lowest water and energy consumption in the market.Every miele parts are guaranteed availability to service and replace 15yrs after end of production.

    So, u see... $4388 for a package instead of the usual $6k plus for a normal miele set, that sets the mind thinking.. Buy a Bmw at toyota prices, or buy the most expensive hyundai...

  15. Posted

    wow :o :o the most expensive brand i have seen so far

    The new miele promo is a commemorative set celebrating miele's 111th anniversary. It comprises the latest 7kg honeycomb washer and condensor dryer. It has the latest patented automatic plus function for mixed load and it come bundled together with a dryer basket, for bulky items like shoes, etc.. and also a set of miele care detergents. The total price is $4388!

    This is by far the best promo miele have due to the bigger drum capacity and functions are aplenty, compared to the last homecare series. However there are only limited sets, if im not wrong miele only brings in about 300 sets for this promotion, and orders are on a first come- first serve basis, and cannot b kept for more than 3 mths upon ordering. I will suggest u all to hurry if interested in buying this set.

    You can read more about miele at my miele washer thread..

  16. Posted

    I am not a Brandt user, but I have LG front load WD. At least for LG, the noise problem comes when the machine is shifted for some reason and the bolts at the base are not tightened to level the machine with the floor. So at the time of installing the machine or even when its shifted a bit from here to there, we have to use a spanner (provided by LG) to tighten the bolts to maximum limit. I guess most front load machines must be working on similar principle.

    Just my two cents worth of opinion, but no harm trying if you have not tried this already.

    Its either washing on unbalanced load causing the suspension to shake or the counterweight nuts loose. in which case u can call the technician to check because there might be other reasons. But most probably will be the suspension thats causing the shaking..

  17. Posted

    Hmm the overseas miele is named differently from the local mieles.In sg they r only categorized as S5, for the bigger cannisters, and S4 for the smaller ones. For the allergy sufferers out there, a recent study in america has proven Miele captured the allergens 622 times better than most brands with hepa filters, including Dyson! So here u go, Miele is the only "TRUE" hepa filter vacuum in the market! For the report, this is the link!

    http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/press/h...ms,1349837.html

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mi...m-96482839.html

    There is a recent study on commissioned by miele that compares air quality on emissions by miele as compared to bagless vacuum cleaner. If u r allergic, pls read this article..

    http://www.appliancemagazine.com/news.php?...e=0&first=1

  18. Posted · Edited by lapena

    Both Dyson and Miele make good vacuums however with respect to canister vacuums I'd have to say go with Miele. Their reputation for canister vacuums is very good and they are still made in Germany. Also the S4212 is actually a vacuum series and there are 2 different canisters in the series - the Polaris and the Neptune. The Polaris is best for short-pile carpeting while the Neptune can manage low to medium-pile carpet. They are both excellent on bare floors. I would suggest looking at the Miele Vacuum Reviews here. You may also wish to consider the newer Miele S2 series of canister vacuums - if you only have hard floors then the entry level S2 (the Olympus) is a great buy.

    Hmm the overseas miele is named differently from the local mieles.In sg they r only categorized as S5, for the bigger cannisters, and S4 for the smaller ones. For the allergy sufferers out there, a recent study in america has proven Miele captured the allergens 622 times better than most brands with hepa filters, including Dyson! So here u go, Miele is the only "TRUE" hepa filter vacuum in the market! For the report, this is the link!

    http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/press/h...ms,1349837.html

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mi...m-96482839.html

  19. Posted · Edited by lapena

    @lapena

    Thanks for the reassurance... however your post on the new package makes me want it more! :dribble:

    BTW, the miele salespersons said the Homecare package fuse rating is 13Amp but according to the Miele technician it is 15Amp. Don't understand why are they giving different info...

    No it should be 13amp! just as all the f/l washers that is in the market. However do check that ur electricity socket is 13amp built and not 15amp built!

    Hmm, Moonlit, as a previous forumner says, new models keep comng up from manufacturers, so if ure gonna wait, den u can wait forever already.. Lol... haha

  21. Posted

    Hi new_home_maker,

    This is probably too late a reply. If I'm not wrong the Homecare package has sold out. They now have a new package for a 7kg washer. Yet to see it myself. If I knew there would be a 7kg washer coming in I might not have bought the Homecare package. :bangwall:

    But I suppose 1kg is not that big a difference. :unsure:

    Hi Moonlit, u r lucky to get the homecare series, because on the last day that it was sold out, I tried my hands to get a display set pair for my friend, i cant.. as the display sets are sold out as the same time when the last remaining sets are sold. And to think i have sources within the electronics industry.. Haha , so dun be too disheartened ..

  22. Posted · Edited by lapena

    hi i was at best denki takashimaya yesterday to check out the washing machine, saw the new promo @$4.2k something, sorry cant remember the exact figs. Still think it is few hundred more than the homecare package offered before.

    Hi, the latest info on the 7kg package is here! Its launched to commemorate Miele's 111 yrs as an independant family run company!

    It belongs to the same series as the homecare package, just that it has the new 7kg honeycomb drum, plus a new "automatic plus' programme that senses the time u need to wash mixed clothings, not by "fuzzy logic' which other brands does, but by a patented rinse action that detects the temperature differences between stain levels of your clothes. that means it will cut short the washing time if ur clothes reached a certain level of cleanliness. It also has a faster express wash of 20 min compared to their previous models with a 30 min express wash. It costs sgd $4388 for the washer and condensor dryer! This promo also runs on the same model as the previous homecare, that is miele will keep the promo a limited timeframe and subjected on stocks availability. But they will only keep stock for u for a max of 3 mths from date of purchase!

    For this new promotion, Miele will throw in a drying basket, ideal for washing sneakers and bulky items for the condensor dryer a set of detergents that was produced by miele itself! going by the specifications, I think this promotion series will outsell the homecare series faster!

  25. Posted

    Went down to Harvey Norman today.. and guess what?!? I got a quote from Parisilk for the Logix8xx washer and dryer and ask the sales there to match it with GST. They did and overall it came to much cheaper becos of the $150 voucher for SP services rebate. However, I got the Miele laundry system instead.. :P at the promo price of $4388 (incl GST).

    I didn't know that Harvey Norman can bargain price one.. hahaha.. now I know.. go check around on the best price you can get first and then go to HN and ask if they can match next time... ;)

    how's the new miele 7kg package?Care to share? alot of my friends want to know its features, and any discounts for this package? if i'm not wrong this is the replacement package for the previous homecare series..

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