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HI folks

I had this quote from an ID and needed advice whether they are reasonable? In a nutshell, I'm planning a complete make over for kitchen (and floor tiles on service balcony) and both bathrooms for my 4 rm hdb (103sqm). Also, changing living room floor tiles with some build in cabinets and major electrical rewiring.

Your advice is greatly appreciated!!! Million thanks! :D:D:D

1) Hacking & demolishing work ($950)

Hack off low wall, windows, door & frames between kitchen & yard area.

Hacking down concrete sink for support at kitchen area. (Demolishing of old kitchen top & bottom cabinet.

Hacking for kitchen & yard floor tiles & cabinet cement bases.

Demolishing of old air-con fan coil unit, trunking & compressor unit.

Demolishing of all old electrical wiring, casing, socket outlets & lighting fixtures for whole house . Demolishing of cornice and fan in living room area.

2) Renovation Package For HOB master bedroom's bathroom & common bathroom ($2900x2)

Upgrade! Supply & replace selected aluminum bi-fold doors with acrylic panels.

Supply labor to install WC pedestals & wash basins.

Provide inlet, embedded drainage pipes & anti-pest floor trap.

Hack floor & wall tiles.

Provide waterproofing membrane under layers with ponding test.

Supply & lay selected floor tiles.

Supply & lay selected wall tiles to ceiling height. (entire walls)

Reinstate existing electrical water heater points, wiring, switches & lights.

Haulage, debris removal & HDB permit.

Chemical acid washing & cleaning.

Painting work for ceiling including sealant undercoat.

3) Renovation for living room ($5140)

3.1) Supply & build selected homogeneous tiles with skirting living room. $1,800

3.2) Supply hacking, haulage, cement sand uploading & debris removal for living room. $1,100

3.3) Supply & install new con ice for living room. $280

3.4) Supply & install altar table cum storage cabinet design. (Approx.7 feet) $1,960

4) Renovation for Master Bedroom ($1920)

4.1) Supply & install wardrobe for main room. (Approx.6 feet) $1,440

4.2) Supply & install low cabinet doors & frames under windows recessed area. $480

5) Renovation for 1 Bedroom ($1440)

5.1) Supply & install wardrobe for one bedroom $1,440

6) Renovation for Kitchen and Service Balcony ($12430)

6.1) Supply & install kitchen cabinet design to specifications. (~36 feet top and bottom) $3,780

6.2) Supply & built cement raised base for kitchen cabinet $450

6.3) Supply & install granite table top for cabinet $1,600

6.4) Provide inlet, embedded drainage pipes & anti-pest floor trap $150

6.5) Provide waterproofing membrane under layers with ponding test $250

6.6) Supply & lay selected floor tiles $1,300

6.7) Supply hacking & laying of selected wall tiles to ceiling height for kitchen area only $2,950

6.8) Supply & install glass backing panel for cooker area (~4 feet width) $420

6.9) Provide plumbing work for new kitchen sink reconnection work $180

6.10) Supply & replace water pipes for entire kitchen & partial yard area $250

6.11) Supply & replace half glass folding door for kitchen entrance area $950

6.12) Provide labor & material to make good for yard area after hacking $150

7) Electrical Rewiring for whole house ($3050)

7.1) DB box for main power supply $460

7.2) 11x light point $330

7.3) 12x twin 13a power point $980

7.4) 1x air con point $110

7.5) 2x heater point $220

7.6) 4x SCV point $440

7.7) 4x telephone point $160

7.8) Sub main earth $200

7.9) Provide labor to install whole house lighting and 1 ceiling fan $150

8) General Renovation Work ($2230)

8.1) Provide enamel painting work for existing sewage pipes & water pipes for house $150

8.2) Provide ICI Dulux painting for whole house with full protection covering work $1,050

8.3) Provide enamel painting work for existing storeroom & 3 bedrooms $240

8.4) Supply & replace lock sets for 3 bedroom existing wooden doors $120

8.5) Supply & replace ledge lock sets & hooks for existing windows for whole house $90

8.6) Provide general haulage & debris removal services for whole house $400

8.7) Provide chemical acid washing & cleaning for whole house $180

Total cost: $32,960

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HI folks

I had this quote from an ID and needed advice whether they are reasonable? In a nutshell, I'm planning a complete make over for kitchen (and floor tiles on service balcony) and both bathrooms for my 4 rm hdb (103sqm). Also, changing living room floor tiles with some build in cabinets and major electrical rewiring.

Your advice is greatly appreciated!!! Million thanks! :D:D:D

1) Hacking & demolishing work ($950)

Hack off low wall, windows, door & frames between kitchen & yard area.

Hacking down concrete sink for support at kitchen area. (Demolishing of old kitchen top & bottom cabinet.

Hacking for kitchen & yard floor tiles & cabinet cement bases.

Demolishing of old air-con fan coil unit, trunking & compressor unit.

Demolishing of all old electrical wiring, casing, socket outlets & lighting fixtures for whole house . Demolishing of cornice and fan in living room area.

2) Renovation Package For HOB master bedroom's bathroom & common bathroom ($2900x2)

Upgrade! Supply & replace selected aluminum bi-fold doors with acrylic panels.

Supply labor to install WC pedestals & wash basins.

Provide inlet, embedded drainage pipes & anti-pest floor trap.

Hack floor & wall tiles.

Provide waterproofing membrane under layers with ponding test.

Supply & lay selected floor tiles.

Supply & lay selected wall tiles to ceiling height. (entire walls)

Reinstate existing electrical water heater points, wiring, switches & lights.

Haulage, debris removal & HDB permit.

Chemical acid washing & cleaning.

Painting work for ceiling including sealant undercoat.

3) Renovation for living room ($5140)

3.1) Supply & build selected homogeneous tiles with skirting living room. $1,800

3.2) Supply hacking, haulage, cement sand uploading & debris removal for living room. $1,100

3.3) Supply & install new con ice for living room. $280

3.4) Supply & install altar table cum storage cabinet design. (Approx.7 feet) $1,960

4) Renovation for Master Bedroom ($1920)

4.1) Supply & install wardrobe for main room. (Approx.6 feet) $1,440

4.2) Supply & install low cabinet doors & frames under windows recessed area. $480

5) Renovation for 1 Bedroom ($1440)

5.1) Supply & install wardrobe for one bedroom $1,440

6) Renovation for Kitchen and Service Balcony ($12430)

6.1) Supply & install kitchen cabinet design to specifications. (~36 feet top and bottom) $3,780

6.2) Supply & built cement raised base for kitchen cabinet $450

6.3) Supply & install granite table top for cabinet $1,600

6.4) Provide inlet, embedded drainage pipes & anti-pest floor trap $150

6.5) Provide waterproofing membrane under layers with ponding test $250

6.6) Supply & lay selected floor tiles $1,300

6.7) Supply hacking & laying of selected wall tiles to ceiling height for kitchen area only $2,950

6.8) Supply & install glass backing panel for cooker area (~4 feet width) $420

6.9) Provide plumbing work for new kitchen sink reconnection work $180

6.10) Supply & replace water pipes for entire kitchen & partial yard area $250

6.11) Supply & replace half glass folding door for kitchen entrance area $950

6.12) Provide labor & material to make good for yard area after hacking $150

7) Electrical Rewiring for whole house ($3050)

7.1) DB box for main power supply $460

7.2) 11x light point $330

7.3) 12x twin 13a power point $980

7.4) 1x air con point $110

7.5) 2x heater point $220

7.6) 4x SCV point $440

7.7) 4x telephone point $160

7.8) Sub main earth $200

7.9) Provide labor to install whole house lighting and 1 ceiling fan $150

8) General Renovation Work ($2230)

8.1) Provide enamel painting work for existing sewage pipes & water pipes for house $150

8.2) Provide ICI Dulux painting for whole house with full protection covering work $1,050 (No. 2 also got painting, here also got painting)

8.3) Provide enamel painting work for existing storeroom & 3 bedrooms $240

8.4) Supply & replace lock sets for 3 bedroom existing wooden doors $120

8.5) Supply & replace ledge lock sets & hooks for existing windows for whole house $90

8.6) Provide general haulage & debris removal services for whole house $400 (No. 2 & No. 3 have haulage & debris charge already, so how many times is the ID charging u?)

8.7) Provide chemical acid washing & cleaning for whole house $180 ( Same lor, No.2 also got chemical acid washing and cleaning, like got alot of items double charging)

Total cost: $32,960

 

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HI jaskel

Thanks for replying. Appreciate it!

I also realize the duplicates charges and will bring them up again if i decide to use this ID. Beside those you highlighted, do you think it is expensive?

With your experience, what is your best guess on such reno spending? My thoughts was like ~22K earlier but guess I'm out then.

HI valuehunter

I don't feel comfortable to share the ID detail because I respected their integrity of quoting it. It is up to me whether i should sign it though.

My reno starts around late june though. So, starting to ask around for quotes and want to move in before Hungry Ghost Festival.

Thanks!

 

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HI jaskel

Thanks for replying. Appreciate it!

I also realize the duplicates charges and will bring them up again if i decide to use this ID. Beside those you highlighted, do you think it is expensive?

With your experience, what is your best guess on such reno spending? My thoughts was like ~22K earlier but guess I'm out then.

HI valuehunter

I don't feel comfortable to share the ID detail because I respected their integrity of quoting it. It is up to me whether i should sign it though.

My reno starts around late june though. So, starting to ask around for quotes and want to move in before Hungry Ghost Festival.

Thanks!

Hi doob,

There are quite a few items dimension being left out which is hard to comment on it at all. And also some details left out too, such as painting, what type of paints are they providing? wardrobe. casement or sliding doors? Supplying of tiles...what the price limit u can choose.....so many factors not in so quite hard to comment on it.....he may give u china granite or India granite 2 different prices...so u get my points? The range can be from $25K-$40K...really also depend on the material selected or given, such as soft-closing hinges like Blum, tiles selected @ $4~$6 psf, etc....

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HI jaskel

Which dimension I can provide to help better estimation? Your inputs so far have been very beneficial to a newbie like me.

For paint, it is ICI emulsion (normal).

For wardrobe, I prefer casement. But, is there a price difference with sliding doors?

For granite, is India better than China? price difference is how much?

What about hacking and bathroom packages? Reasonable?

I need to check it out on tiles though.

Thanks!

 

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HI jaskel

Thanks for replying. Appreciate it!

I also realize the duplicates charges and will bring them up again if i decide to use this ID. Beside those you highlighted, do you think it is expensive?

With your experience, what is your best guess on such reno spending? My thoughts was like ~22K earlier but guess I'm out then.

HI valuehunter

I don't feel comfortable to share the ID detail because I respected their integrity of quoting it. It is up to me whether i should sign it though.

My reno starts around late june though. So, starting to ask around for quotes and want to move in before Hungry Ghost Festival.

Thanks!

if there is duplicate charge at this stage i think should omit such an ID.........

 

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if there is duplicate charge at this stage i think should omit such an ID.........

Exactly. If the ID never bother to check on this IMPORTANT points, they might chop you for other items or doing a sloppy job.

If you have not paid anything, might as well change your ID.

 

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HI jaskel

Which dimension I can provide to help better estimation? Your inputs so far have been very beneficial to a newbie like me.

For paint, it is ICI emulsion (normal).

For wardrobe, I prefer casement. But, is there a price difference with sliding doors?

For granite, is India better than China? price difference is how much?

What about hacking and bathroom packages? Reasonable?

I need to check it out on tiles though.

Thanks!

For painting, ICI emulsion paint...can be Pentalite and also can be others. A 5L pentalite paint and a 20L emulsion paint can cost almost the same price. So when painter quote cheap, they can be giving emulsion paint only which is a 20L can type (lowest and cheapest quality of paint). Eg, Nippon Matex 20L compare to Easy Wash both also have pure white colour. So u get it...what paint he/she is providing, Wash n Wear, Dulux All, Light & Space, etc...

For wardrobe, there is price different, if casement is $200pfr, sliding might be $220pfr.

For granite, beside price different of about $50 more pfr, the thickness also got different.

Hacking, usually is a one lump sum, but dismantling of air-con is FOC cos, they can sell it away. Mostly your air-con installer will do it for u. Dismantling of wiring is also done by your electrician not the hacker. If u rewiring the whole hse, this item is also FOC. Your windows are also not done by the hacker, it got to be done by the window contractor that the ID engaged, so this item also FOC. All this was added in is to make the quotation look nice and also responsibility, cos without included all this in, they can said u didn't ask them to do. So your actually hacking and demolish cost are the rest and its consider reasonable from a ID quote. Cos by right, the hacker will quote everything that need to hack as 1 lump sum such as toilet flooring and walls, kitchen cabinet, etc...but in this case, your ID just spread it out and itemize it. This way, is hard to for owners to compare item by item.

Mostly, I advised owners to compare apple with apple (quoting the same, eg. all quotes $3psf tiles, not this quote give $2.80psf, that quote give $3.20psf, not here give 5 colours all type of paint, there give 10 colours but only Pentalite paint, etc...), that's mean see the total amount without the carpentry (design, material used maybe different, so is the cost). Then this way is the real comparison for quotation.

As for dimension I'm looking at are the living (psf), item 4.2 low cabinet, both bathroom (psf), granite top (pfr), etc... quite a lot but regardless. I believe the ID also want to make a living, as long as he/she is not those irresponsible type, the quality of material and the workmanship is good, paying a little bit more may be worth it then saving a few thousands. If u would to read on other threads on contractors or ID here, u will see that some may give a good quote, but in the end, run away with jobs not done or half done. In the end, the hse owners is not only paying more to get others to complete it, but the amount of time wasted, anger suffer, etc...all this is even more than the few thousands that the house owners trying to save in the 1st place.

So my advise to all is regardless whether is an ID or a contractor, registered HDB or not, cheap or expensive, most importantly, the person doing up your hse must be trustworthy, responsible and treat it like doing his/her own hse. Cos in this way, the standard will not be too bad. But hse owner should also don't be asking for too much cos to u all, u may think u paid for it or u expect it to be this way, whereas the market practice doesn't do so. Eg, laying of electrical trucking, electrician don't silicone the gap, I know its ugly to see the gap between the trucking and the wall but the practice is that they don't do it. Waterproofing the walls' tiles in the bathroom, only the bottom 100mm is doing waterproofing, the rest is not. Plastering the walls should be straight which in actual case, plastering the walls is only to make it smooth only, etc....

Being a hse owner, I had met bad contractors, being a contractor now, I also had met 100% perfectionist hse owners. So being on both sides of it, I understand how the hse owner and the contractor feel. In a reno, there is no 100% perfect, achieving 80~90% is consider very good already.

Being a layman for some hse owners, u all can ask for advise or help here b4 u start to scold or expect your ID/contractor to do this or that cos sometimes u may not know that is the way things done. Afterall they are still human beings and human beings have ego and they do sometimes make a mistake, as long as they rectify and admit it rather than pushing it away, they are consider responsible and good.

 

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HI folks

I had this quote from an ID and needed advice whether they are reasonable? In a nutshell, I'm planning a complete make over for kitchen (and floor tiles on service balcony) and both bathrooms for my 4 rm hdb (103sqm). Also, changing living room floor tiles with some build in cabinets and major electrical rewiring.

Your advice is greatly appreciated!!! Million thanks! :D:D:D

1) Hacking & demolishing work ($950)

Hack off low wall, windows, door & frames between kitchen & yard area.

Hacking down concrete sink for support at kitchen area. (Demolishing of old kitchen top & bottom cabinet.

Hacking for kitchen & yard floor tiles & cabinet cement bases.

Demolishing of old air-con fan coil unit, trunking & compressor unit.

Demolishing of all old electrical wiring, casing, socket outlets & lighting fixtures for whole house . Demolishing of cornice and fan in living room area.

2) Renovation Package For HOB master bedroom's bathroom & common bathroom ($2900x2)

Upgrade! Supply & replace selected aluminum bi-fold doors with acrylic panels.

Supply labor to install WC pedestals & wash basins.

Provide inlet, embedded drainage pipes & anti-pest floor trap.

Hack floor & wall tiles.

Provide waterproofing membrane under layers with ponding test.

Supply & lay selected floor tiles.

Supply & lay selected wall tiles to ceiling height. (entire walls)

Reinstate existing electrical water heater points, wiring, switches & lights.

Haulage, debris removal & HDB permit.

Chemical acid washing & cleaning.

Painting work for ceiling including sealant undercoat.

3) Renovation for living room ($5140)

3.1) Supply & build selected homogeneous tiles with skirting living room. $1,800

3.2) Supply hacking, haulage, cement sand uploading & debris removal for living room. $1,100

3.3) Supply & install new con ice for living room. $280

3.4) Supply & install altar table cum storage cabinet design. (Approx.7 feet) $1,960

4) Renovation for Master Bedroom ($1920)

4.1) Supply & install wardrobe for main room. (Approx.6 feet) $1,440

4.2) Supply & install low cabinet doors & frames under windows recessed area. $480

5) Renovation for 1 Bedroom ($1440)

5.1) Supply & install wardrobe for one bedroom $1,440

6) Renovation for Kitchen and Service Balcony ($12430)

6.1) Supply & install kitchen cabinet design to specifications. (~36 feet top and bottom) $3,780

6.2) Supply & built cement raised base for kitchen cabinet $450

6.3) Supply & install granite table top for cabinet $1,600

6.4) Provide inlet, embedded drainage pipes & anti-pest floor trap $150

6.5) Provide waterproofing membrane under layers with ponding test $250

6.6) Supply & lay selected floor tiles $1,300

6.7) Supply hacking & laying of selected wall tiles to ceiling height for kitchen area only $2,950

6.8) Supply & install glass backing panel for cooker area (~4 feet width) $420

6.9) Provide plumbing work for new kitchen sink reconnection work $180

6.10) Supply & replace water pipes for entire kitchen & partial yard area $250

6.11) Supply & replace half glass folding door for kitchen entrance area $950

6.12) Provide labor & material to make good for yard area after hacking $150

7) Electrical Rewiring for whole house ($3050)

7.1) DB box for main power supply $460

7.2) 11x light point $330

7.3) 12x twin 13a power point $980

7.4) 1x air con point $110

7.5) 2x heater point $220

7.6) 4x SCV point $440

7.7) 4x telephone point $160

7.8) Sub main earth $200

7.9) Provide labor to install whole house lighting and 1 ceiling fan $150

8) General Renovation Work ($2230)

8.1) Provide enamel painting work for existing sewage pipes & water pipes for house $150

8.2) Provide ICI Dulux painting for whole house with full protection covering work $1,050

8.3) Provide enamel painting work for existing storeroom & 3 bedrooms $240

8.4) Supply & replace lock sets for 3 bedroom existing wooden doors $120

8.5) Supply & replace ledge lock sets & hooks for existing windows for whole house $90

8.6) Provide general haulage & debris removal services for whole house $400

8.7) Provide chemical acid washing & cleaning for whole house $180

Total cost: $32,960

Hi bro can give me your id contact

 

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For painting, ICI emulsion paint...can be Pentalite and also can be others. A 5L pentalite paint and a 20L emulsion paint can cost almost the same price. So when painter quote cheap, they can be giving emulsion paint only which is a 20L can type (lowest and cheapest quality of paint). Eg, Nippon Matex 20L compare to Easy Wash both also have pure white colour. So u get it...what paint he/she is providing, Wash n Wear, Dulux All, Light & Space, etc...

For wardrobe, there is price different, if casement is $200pfr, sliding might be $220pfr.

For granite, beside price different of about $50 more pfr, the thickness also got different.

Hacking, usually is a one lump sum, but dismantling of air-con is FOC cos, they can sell it away. Mostly your air-con installer will do it for u. Dismantling of wiring is also done by your electrician not the hacker. If u rewiring the whole hse, this item is also FOC. Your windows are also not done by the hacker, it got to be done by the window contractor that the ID engaged, so this item also FOC. All this was added in is to make the quotation look nice and also responsibility, cos without included all this in, they can said u didn't ask them to do. So your actually hacking and demolish cost are the rest and its consider reasonable from a ID quote. Cos by right, the hacker will quote everything that need to hack as 1 lump sum such as toilet flooring and walls, kitchen cabinet, etc...but in this case, your ID just spread it out and itemize it. This way, is hard to for owners to compare item by item.

Mostly, I advised owners to compare apple with apple (quoting the same, eg. all quotes $3psf tiles, not this quote give $2.80psf, that quote give $3.20psf, not here give 5 colours all type of paint, there give 10 colours but only Pentalite paint, etc...), that's mean see the total amount without the carpentry (design, material used maybe different, so is the cost). Then this way is the real comparison for quotation.

As for dimension I'm looking at are the living (psf), item 4.2 low cabinet, both bathroom (psf), granite top (pfr), etc... quite a lot but regardless. I believe the ID also want to make a living, as long as he/she is not those irresponsible type, the quality of material and the workmanship is good, paying a little bit more may be worth it then saving a few thousands. If u would to read on other threads on contractors or ID here, u will see that some may give a good quote, but in the end, run away with jobs not done or half done. In the end, the hse owners is not only paying more to get others to complete it, but the amount of time wasted, anger suffer, etc...all this is even more than the few thousands that the house owners trying to save in the 1st place.

So my advise to all is regardless whether is an ID or a contractor, registered HDB or not, cheap or expensive, most importantly, the person doing up your hse must be trustworthy, responsible and treat it like doing his/her own hse. Cos in this way, the standard will not be too bad. But hse owner should also don't be asking for too much cos to u all, u may think u paid for it or u expect it to be this way, whereas the market practice doesn't do so. Eg, laying of electrical trucking, electrician don't silicone the gap, I know its ugly to see the gap between the trucking and the wall but the practice is that they don't do it. Waterproofing the walls' tiles in the bathroom, only the bottom 100mm is doing waterproofing, the rest is not. Plastering the walls should be straight which in actual case, plastering the walls is only to make it smooth only, etc....

Being a hse owner, I had met bad contractors, being a contractor now, I also had met 100% perfectionist hse owners. So being on both sides of it, I understand how the hse owner and the contractor feel. In a reno, there is no 100% perfect, achieving 80~90% is consider very good already.

Being a layman for some hse owners, u all can ask for advise or help here b4 u start to scold or expect your ID/contractor to do this or that cos sometimes u may not know that is the way things done. Afterall they are still human beings and human beings have ego and they do sometimes make a mistake, as long as they rectify and admit it rather than pushing it away, they are consider responsible and good.

hi jaskel

I greatly appreciate for your time taken to pen down such comprehensive and detail explanation, which definitely lighten up a newbie like me. Will watch out for those. Kudos to you! :D:good:

I totally agree with you that no manner how "cheap" we can get from a quote, in the end of the day, smooth (meeting date line) progress, good quality and workmanship is what we manner the most. And yes, if spending extra few thousand dollar yields better results from a responsible ID, I'm definitely opt for it. Saving those $$ might not be enough to "cure my agony" if result turns out bad, like cases you mentioned. The only thing that I wanted to know is that what I spend on is not "unreasonably charged" though i know there is a premium incurred for excellent service. Having said that, I definitely trust the integrity of this ID who has made good reputation so far on the renovation services. :good:

I do not expect my house to be superbly designed but simple, only to feel a sense of comfy home after a hard day of work. Therefore, I hope it is not too much for me to expect my renovation to complete without much hiccups. :D

May I know how long does it takes to get HDB approval for reno work permit?

Thanks!!!

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HI zhiz, ngunadi, valuehunter

Thanks for reminding me though. :)

I'll see how they dealt with those "duplicate" charges when they are in my "selected" ID list, just for their benefit of doubt. To err is human, to repent is divine. :)

Keep your kind reminder coming in. :D

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hi jaskel

I greatly appreciate for your time taken to pen down such comprehensive and detail explanation, which definitely lighten up a newbie like me. Will watch out for those. Kudos to you! :D:good:

I totally agree with you that no manner how "cheap" we can get from a quote, in the end of the day, smooth (meeting date line) progress, good quality and workmanship is what we manner the most. And yes, if spending extra few thousand dollar yields better results from a responsible ID, I'm definitely opt for it. Saving those $$ might not be enough to "cure my agony" if result turns out bad, like cases you mentioned. The only thing that I wanted to know is that what I spend on is not "unreasonably charged" though i know there is a premium incurred for excellent service. Having said that, I definitely trust the integrity of this ID who has made good reputation so far on the renovation services. :good:

I do not expect my house to be superbly designed but simple, only to feel a sense of comfy home after a hard day of work. Therefore, I hope it is not too much for me to expect my renovation to complete without much hiccups. :D

May I know how long does it takes to get HDB approval for reno work permit?

Thanks!!!

U r welcome. Maybe becos I had help some of the victims here, that why I felt it for the owners.

To me, IDs do quote more ex than a contractor. At seeing your quote from an ID, I do expect that is the amount. But when signing of contract, things need to be clearly stated so as to avoid for future misunderstanding.

3 working days for the approval of reno work permit.

 

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