Double Glaze Windows

[ihuazai 2]

You can google for info on laminated glass and noise reduction/sound insulation.

Or take a read of the technical bulletin here:

http://www.pilkington.com/products/bp/bybenefit/noisecontrol/optiphon/default.htm

Double glazing, which is the term commonly used for a glazing of 2 layers of glass separated by an air gap, is more for heat insulation. For sound insulation, the air gap must be big, like 6 cm or more.

Laminated glass is usually 2 sheets sandwiching a layer of PVB and is more effective in reducing sound. It gets more effective when you use glass of different thickness.

Its not just about the glass. You have to pay attention to the whole window system -- any gaps? how tightly secured?

You can try Fascina. They are one of the more known ones. You can also engage the usual window makers who are cheaper, but you'll probably have to specify what you want and won't be able to really rely on them for advice. Then there are the smaller, more boutique type of businesses. They have good engineering and can cost anything from in between Fascina and the mass market manufacturers to way above Fascina.

unfortunately Facina only does private housing, not HDB flats.

[zer0sg 0]

Dunno, Pang Giap says they can get the necessary HDB approval.

Bravoglass is now quoting $280/sqm for double glaze + extra for frames. Still awaiting final quote.

Hi ihuazi did you manage to do double glazing windows for your place. Can you advise the cost =)

[ihuazai 2]

Hi ihuazi did you manage to do double glazing windows for your place. Can you advise the cost =)

Nope, considering laminate glass now after the advice from this topic.

you can see pang giap's quote above

[verbatim 0]

Hi,

Did anyone install laminate glass? Is it effective? What is the cost? I am interested in install it too, to block out noise,

but laminate glass or double glazed is better? Or is it better to install double glazed laminate glass??

[mummydolphin 0]

My soundproof windows from factory-direct contractor, Louis, was great! Spent less than $1k. And the results were fantastic! At least 70% noise reduction that gives me better sleep, away from the noisy MRT tracks outside my place everyday.

Very sincere contractor. They even helped to check and lubricated all my windows' hinges without additional charges.

Would recommend him if anyone looking for windows and grilles contractors. Below is his contact:-

Louis from www.windowgrillessg.com (HP: 9672 0326 / 9100 6846)

[ambooose 0]

Not all double glaze windows are the same, there's 6mm and 12mm space gap. I feel that the 6mm space gap is only effective for up to 40% in blocking off traffic noise. Either go for the thicker air space gap or thicker glass or better still, use laminated glass for the double glaze windows.

I got mine done at Pang Giap. Installation was OK but they did not inform me that there's the 12mm option. I would have chosen this option. It was after some research online before I know about the various options. The after sales service is also very poor. No replies to my request for maintenance. Double glaze windows are very expensive and do check with your vendors if they provide after sales service.

Edited August 4, 2013 by ambooose

[gryffindor 2]

My soundproof windows from factory-direct contractor, Louis, was great! Spent less than $1k. And the results were fantastic! At least 70% noise reduction that gives me better sleep, away from the noisy MRT tracks outside my place everyday.

Very sincere contractor. They even helped to check and lubricated all my windows' hinges without additional charges.

Would recommend him if anyone looking for windows and grilles contractors. Below is his contact:-

Louis from www.windowgrillessg.com (HP: 9672 0326 / 9100 6846)

Hi, what kind of window did you install? Laminated or double glazed? Can you post a picture?

[happygreen 0]

What is the per sq feet rates now??

[grubaburg 0]

I'm still looking for the right & reliable source that is competent in the market, supply and installation on double-glazing for my HDB flat.

I found one after visiting the website and was satisfied after delving further at their printed reviews but after a good month of direct contact and arrangements made which involves somewhat, I came away disappointed from their (in) competency and esp. on their lack for commitment despite my efforts going to lengths to secure a good understanding on the issue (while it's their specialty and yet...??? - daft & duhhhh) and costly too when I involve my POA acting on my behalf and time matter$$$ as anyone in SG knows very well.

Anyway, I need a new option for a serious quote and hopefully, is competent both in the English language (aren't registered businesses supposedly expected to be proficient in English in SG???) and in their installation expertise on this field.

I am now less incline on a fancy website, it stays / proves deceiving! If their spoken English is VERY poor (expect a Chinaman SGporean with little commitment & service support experience) and follow-up being slow to beingas low as poor, skip them & look for another competent source instead.

I almost had triple glazing installed in my Dutch home as initial preference but eventually opted for double as the company was also a leading installer on this field and technology and it spared me a huge savings when the job was completed.

In Holland, unlike Austria or Sweden where my friends has theirs with triple glazing, SG conditions is unsuitable and ineffective to have it unless, you have just TOO MUCH $$$$ to spent and foolishly too for not doing yr DD on the fundamental remuneration gain thru double and/or triple glazing in a location to counter off temperature preservation and loss.

Sound proofing can be integrated but comes at a hefty pricetag and the depth or thickness of theentire frame involved may exceed extremely beyond the HDB allowance to be granted the permit.

I wish mine to be fully implemented incl. that of both bathrooms and with anti mozzyscreens that are easily detachable too for maintenance to it and easy access to cleaning the windows safely from within by the household Maid without having to climb out or engage a window cleaner for the weekly service.

I noted the contact nr of a Mr Louis shared by "mummydolphin", my appreciation on this. I hope he is still in service.

More options are welcome naturally for a good quote and the freedom to select the best choice Contractor for the job I have in mind for the best contract agreed on.

A lightly tinted glass added is also my preference to shade off the glare.
Does anyone joining in this interesting awareness surrounding double-glazing of the home, has more input to share?

All I can provide for now is whatever is available and applied in Europe with its own building standards and norms, defers somewhat to Asian Standards hence, local Standards has to be first understood and considered seriously while comparing among the available options to finding a good Installer or Contractor is not like when one buys a fancy local dish at just any Food Court... its a specialised Field and it can be costly and regrettable when selecting the wrong Contractor in haste.

Edited October 13, 2013 by grubaburg

[gryffindor 2]

I'm still looking for the right & reliable source that is competent in the market, supply and installation on double-glazing for my HDB flat.

I found one after visiting the website and was satisfied after delving further at their printed reviews but after a good month of direct contact and arrangements made which involves somewhat, I came away disappointed from their (in) competency and esp. on their lack for commitment despite my efforts going to lengths to secure a good understanding on the issue (while it's their specialty and yet...??? - daft & duhhhh) and costly too when I involve my POA acting on my behalf and time matter$$$ as anyone in SG knows very well.

Anyway, I need a new option for a serious quote and hopefully, is competent both in the English language (aren't registered businesses supposedly expected to be proficient in English in SG???) and in their installation expertise on this field.

I am now less incline on a fancy website, it stays / proves deceiving! If their spoken English is VERY poor (expect a Chinaman SGporean with little commitment & service support experience) and follow-up being slow to beingas low as poor, skip them & look for another competent source instead.

I almost had triple glazing installed in my Dutch home as initial preference but eventually opted for double as the company was also a leading installer on this field and technology and it spared me a huge savings when the job was completed.

In Holland, unlike Austria or Sweden where my friends has theirs with triple glazing, SG conditions is unsuitable and ineffective to have it unless, you have just TOO MUCH $$$$ to spent and foolishly too for not doing yr DD on the fundamental remuneration gain thru double and/or triple glazing in a location to counter off temperature preservation and loss.

Sound proofing can be integrated but comes at a hefty pricetag and the depth or thickness of theentire frame involved may exceed extremely beyond the HDB allowance to be granted the permit.

I wish mine to be fully implemented incl. that of both bathrooms and with anti mozzyscreens that are easily detachable too for maintenance to it and easy access to cleaning the windows safely from within by the household Maid without having to climb out or engage a window cleaner for the weekly service.

I noted the contact nr of a Mr Louis shared by "mummydolphin", my appreciation on this. I hope he is still in service.

More options are welcome naturally for a good quote and the freedom to select the best choice Contractor for the job I have in mind for the best contract agreed on.

A lightly tinted glass added is also my preference to shade off the glare.

Does anyone joining in this interesting awareness surrounding double-glazing of the home, has more input to share?

All I can provide for now is whatever is available and applied in Europe with its own building standards and norms, defers somewhat to Asian Standards hence, local Standards has to be first understood and considered seriously while comparing among the available options to finding a good Installer or Contractor is not like when one buys a fancy local dish at just any Food Court... its a specialised Field and it can be costly and regrettable when selecting the wrong Contractor in haste.

So, have you spoken to Louis' contact? I agree. I've stayed a little bit in europe and the quality of their furnishing and fittings are way way better than Singapore's. The windows are not only double-glazed but also has three different ways of opening. I have no idea why singapore being so noisy and hot has such lousy windows fitted. Don't tell me the flats are cheap. They are anything but that.

[grubaburg 0]

No I have not contacted Louis.

I have since been bogged with removals and inventorization of my items stored at my Shurgard facility which suffered some bad rainwater leaks from the 3rd Floor and got to mine on the ground floor since last weekend heavy downpour by us. :(

I'm now still up at around 04:00 and just found time to check & browse the Net since Monday when I had to inspect the damage on my unit and items stored there.

If I can still stave off another 30 mins, I will call Louis after this... So, I'll be back hopefully by this weekend as I'm going back to my storage facility as it is far from over despite spending daily some 8 - 10 hrs clearing and relocating into a better & drier unit.

[grubaburg 0]

i just tried... connection is slow on their website and no response to my attempted calls on either nrs... hence, a Ticket requesting their response was submitted with brief details... I will await their reply then... Time to hit the hammock...

[gryffindor 2]

Good luck with that storage. That's a nightmare! They are supposed to keep your stuff safe

And DRY.

[ihuazai 2]

Griffindor, are u looking to install or have already installed those windows? I started this thread, but procrastinated. Now looking anew at installing those windows. Pls share ur experience as well. I'm getting quotes from quite a few sites i found thru google. Hope they come back with prices that are reasonable. Pls add on if u have other contacts

http://www.ny-tc.com/Noise_Control_Soundproofing_Soundproofing_Windows_nytc.html

http://www.window-grille-door.com/contact-us/

http://noiseblocksystems.com/

http://www.anv-aluminium.com/aluminium/aluminium-soundproof-windows/

http://www.grillesnglass.com/glass-windows/soundproof-windows/

So, have you spoken to Louis' contact? I agree. I've stayed a little bit in europe and the quality of their furnishing and fittings are way way better than Singapore's. The windows are not only double-glazed but also has three different ways of opening. I have no idea why singapore being so noisy and hot has such lousy windows fitted. Don't tell me the flats are cheap. They are anything but that.

[happygreen 0]

Hi,

Any idea what's the psf for soundproofing window?

Thanks.

Green