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Welcome to RT
Looking forward to ur 3Ds and progress of the reno!
btw just curious, ur ID left the remaining cardboard to u? Thought they usually lay the floor and keep the rest?
I have no idea but it has been left in the storeroom each time i went up to inspect. As per the quote provided by him, this cardboard is provided and lay by town council. I was also billed seperately for this. So i guess i am the owner of this.
Till date, He had provided me with 2 draft of the 3D drawings. i will upload the 1st copy i have received.
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Hope i have replied and cleared all the PM requests. Lastly, i have also uploaded the 1st draft of the 3d drawing.
Current Total cost of renovation=14300 (inclusive of electrical works at $600, there was some miscommunication in the electrical works that cause the progress of the renovation to be delayed.)
To all bros and sis in the forum, probably need to confirm the electrical works first before signing the contact.
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Day 2(Sat) reno pictures, went back to the flat to meet electrician and id to finalize the materials and dicuss about the electrical works. Also did receive the 1st draft of the 3d drawings.
As per the work schedule, today is basically wet works, nothing much to update.
Took a few snaps of the house reno when the workers went for their lunch break.
Bathroom Pic
Service yard
Kitchen wetworks
Before we left, a group of workers delivered the materials for building our partition.
Day 3 (Mon) - Aircon installation
SO took leave to coordinate with the id on aircon installation. Meanwhile also took some pics of the state of our reno
Kitchen wetworks
Service yard wetworks seems to have completed.
Arrival of our aircon
Day 4 - Vesak Day PH (No progress)
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Not sure what sort of freelance if u are looking for ? Those that are doing on a adhoc project basis or as a job.
But to share with my experience, I was quoted abt 3 k by a freelance id for services which will be on top of whatever charges his contractor charges.
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Will share all mine ID/Contractor reviews in another post once i have the time.
Anyway to cut the story short, after the signing of the contract, our ID arranged for work to be done on last friday. Thus, decided to make surprise visit to the flat to view the progress.
Day 1
Attached are the work that have been done on the 1st day of the renovation. Basically the entire flat has been wrapped with corrugulated paper. The delivery of sand and hdb tiles already arrived on that same day.
Kitchen
Living room with some offering
Bedroom
Bedroom
Bedroom
What can i do with the remaining bundle of corruglated paper ?
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Hi Songz,
This is the floorplan of the flat and it is about 90sqm.
Hi 11finger,
i check for defects on my own as i actually took about half a year searching and confirming my ID after i collected the keys.
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Somehow not able to logged on to renotalk for the last few days. Anyway reno works have begun and the cost for haulage disposal is $600.
Breakdown as below.
Haulage fees $350
Lay Corrugulated paper to entire flat $50
Purchase of additional tiles for service yard and kitchen 200.
Total cost of renovation=13700++ (currently still negotitating on the final electrical works that could potentially be a low 200 or additional 600)
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Is my electrical quote reasonable. I think that its too pricy. What do you think about it guys? what is the market rate? Many thanks.
1. New light point -$35
2. Reposition lighting point concealed - $65
3. Installation of telephone point - $65
4. Shifting of double power socket - $65
5. Installation/ relocation of SCV point - $180
6. Installation of cat 5 point - $180
7. Installation of hod point - $150
Comparing your quote with my quote, your item 5-7 seems much expensive then what i was quoted for. i was quote about 110 for item 5, 90 for relocation of CAT 6 network point and 40 for installation of cooking hood point
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Hi Bepgof,
Sorry i dunno what you mean. As advised by the ID, i am supposed to pay the haulage fee directly to HDB appointed contractor.
Thank you.
Hi, i believe your renovator will bill you accordingly to what Town Council charges until some ID/contractor who will charge a premium amount.
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10324p.nsf/w/HomeRenoRemoval?OpenDocument
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Got my keys in late Dec 2013 and finally after months and months, weeks and weeks of meeting IDs, contractors of all shapes and kinds. When most of the neighbours in the same estate have already moved in.(Sometimes, do feel abit awkward when the neighbours have already moved in for months and we are at still at the prospecting stage of the renovation, meeting IDs,contractor at our flat for dicussion.)
After countless of meeting, we finally managed to commission a ID to do up our BTO flat and the works will be starting on friday.
Our ID have also drafted a plan for the delivery of the work.
Friday- Haulage work
Saturday-Tiling and meeting the electrician (Will consider to get my contact if the price is too steep).
Monday-Build partition, Aircon installation, Aluminium work measurement
Tuesday - Vesak Day(No work)
Wednesday - Electrical work, Glass works measurement
Thursday - Painting of flat
Friday - Painting of flat
Saturday - Painting of flat( Delivery of items required for renovation items, lights, storage heater,kitchen sink,tap,mini spray, spray valve, miscellaneous accessories, cooker hood and hob )
Monday - Lights installations
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Most important is budget. Do not over-stretch yourself financially with renovation. Make sure the ID/Contractor or whoever you engage is able to match your budget and click with you. Be realistic about the scope of work depending on your budget.
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The ID charges u GST and does not include the electrical work in the quote, ask for a more itemised quote from your ID ?
No GST from the contractor, the haulage fee from the contractor seem abit high ? How come there is 750 quote for installing bathroom items ? what are you installing in your bathroom?
Lastly, please do not take my comments seriously as i am a noob. According to the ID doing my house, the haulage fee is charge by the town council or etc, there will be a receipt stating the amount.
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Sorry was busy with hunting for accessories needed(Fridge, washing machine, kitchen sink, aircon) . As planned, my renovation would start this coming friday 9/5/14 and hopefully end in few weeks time as per planned.
Crossing my fingers and hoping that the renovation would be smooth.
Note: the above quote does not include electrical and haulage disposal. As per the ID, i would need to meet the electrician to dicuss the electrical works needed.
Lastly i hope i would be able to manage and keep the entire renovation budget to less than 16k. (ideally in 15 k, not inclusive of furnishing)
Have replied the PM to all those who ask for the ID's contact.
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Hi,
Are you able to quote for this
1) LG GR-M492GSH fridge
2) 46" TV that have dvb2, wifi
3) Kitchen Sink
4) ceiling fan with lights
5) LG WD-1475TDT Front Loader washing machine
Btw, does your prices include installation ?
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Hi,
Could you send me your pricing and catalogue for Fans and lightings ?
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do let us know which you selected in the end and the reasons why
good luck!In the end, we settled for quote 3.
- Budget and price, i have met countless of IDs, freelance IDs and contractors, even after i tell them my expected budget, they still exceed the budget and included alot of unneccessary stuff i do not require.
- Time , i have been meeting all this renovation ppl for about 5 months and most of the neighbours have already moved in to estate.
- Missy seemed quite keen on engaging this ID as she has seem his work.
- The quote seem pretty ok as compared to some of the quotes that i have seemed where certain items are inflated.
From the 2 quotes, which one you feel more comfortable with?
- Quotations?
- Quality of materials?
- Workmanship?
- Meet to your expectations?
In the end, i settled for Quote 3.
-Quotations:
Quote 1 has GST and since i wasn't sure if i can cfm the contractor thus i never try to negotiate for it to be waived off.
Quote 2 din include GST and seem to be cheaper as it is a friend's dad who is a subcon, but we are worried also if the friend's dad never do a good job and etc. So after getting the quote, we never ask much.
-Qualtiy of materials:
I am noob in renovation, thus no sure how to gauge the quality.
-Workmanship:
Unable to coment as well as most of them just showed pictures of their completed works.
Meeting expections
-Both contractors in quote 1 and 2 are able to point out and highlight some points which the other did not notice, so i guess both have different view on how to tackle this reno project.
Lastly, i guess both contractors just listen to what we wanted to do and gave their opinion although i guess if i listen to their input first, the outcome might be different.
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In the end, i settle for Quote 3 from a ID.
Wet Works
1 To supply labor and material to construct 2 nos cabinet bases $290.00
2 To supply labor and materials to construct fridge bases $90.00
3 To supply labor and materials to construct washing machines bases $130.00
4 To supply labor and materials to construct shower kerb $70.00
Total Wet Work Cost $580
Plumbing works
1 To supply labor and materials to extend stainless steel piping @ existing HDB copper piping point for new kitchen sink position $180
2 To supply and lay conseal PVC piping for drainage area @ kitchen sink $90
3 To supply and lay conseal PVC piping for drainage area @ washing machine $110
4 To supply labour only to install storage heater c/w storage heater stainless steel piping extension for hot & cold $140
5 To supply labor only to install toilet/whole house accessories FOC
6 To supply labor only to install & connect new kitchen sink & tap FOC
7 To supply labor only to install 2nos mini-spray sets FOC
Total Plumbing works $520
Ceiling/Parition works
1 To supply labor and materials to construct full height 2 sided partition wall c/w wood base board @ foyer area $430
Total Ceiling/Parition works 430
Glass works
1 To supply labor and materials to install full height plain edge clear mirror @ foyer area partition wall $450
2 To supply labor and materials to install designer series full height plain edge strip effect clear mirror @ foyer area partition wall 530
3 To supply labor and materials to install 2 D casement glass door between kitchen partition $580
4 To supply labor and install 1 set tempered glass shower screen @ master bathroom [1pcs fixed , 1casement[ $530
Total Glass works :2090
Aluminium Windows works
1 To supply and install HDB approve standards grade aluminium sliding window grill @ service yard, living/dining & 3 bedrooms/[max height 4 ft][bronze/Silver] $980
2 To supply labor and material to install 1 set powder coated sliding aluminium window @ service yard c/w HDB approved coloured glass. $680
Total Aluminium works $1660
Electrical works
1 To supply labor only to install internal light fixtures @ HDB standard ceiling light points(13 lighting points,lighting provided by owner) FOC
Total Electrical works $0
Carpentery works
Foyer Area
1 To fabricate and install full height shoes cabinets c/w casement door, ABS trimming, soft close mechanim hingers and designers handler in laminate finish[est 3ft] $650
Living Room
2 To fabricate and install low height storage cabinets daybeds c/w PVC cushion, casement sling door, ABS trimming, slow close mechanism hindges & designer handles in laminate finishes [est 10.5ft] $1470
Master Bathroom area
3 To fabricate and install suspended storage cabinets c/w 1 sliding mirror door, top and bottom coverlight , internal shelving, ABS trimming and designer handles in PVC finishes [est 5 ft] $690
Kitchen Area
4 To fabricate and install top tread removable pelmet box up in laminate finish @ both side 700
5 To fabricate and install top & bottom kitchen cabinet c/w ABS trimming, slow close mechanicsm hindges, 2 set of drawers and designer handles in laminate finish[est 20 ft] $2000
6 To supply and install 1 no frosted glass for kitchen cabinet FOC
7 To supply and install 1 nos 2-tier stainless stell dish rack FOC
8 To supply labor only to install cooker hob and hood FOC
9 To supply and install1 no PVC cutlery tray
10 To supply and install polyester base heavy duty solid surface worktop c/w front profile & backsplash [est 17ft][Test and appoved by PSB] 1150
*All carpentry works are all using solid 3 plywood c/w high pressure laminate finish, use only local laminate materials, material quality assured
Total carpentry costs=6660
Misc works
1 To supply labor and materials to pain whole unit using Original Nippon/ICI paint [4+1 colors] include Matex paint for ceiling (min two coats), painting of all PVC/stainless steel pipes, all doors, door frame c/w glossy paint if needed, main gaite c/w glossy paint if needed $1060
2 To supply labor and materials to acid wash for entire unit FOC
3 To supply labor and materials to do general cleanin for entire unit FOC
4 To supply labor and materials to lay corrugated paper for whole house by HDB haulage FOC
5 HDB parking of skip tank at loading and unloading fees FOC
6 HDB Permit and handling fees FOC
7 Haulage and debris removal fees [include upload of sand] As charged as per receipt
Total misc work :$1060 + ?
Total renovation cost = $13000*
* does not include haulage and debris removal fee and additional electical routing.
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Hi Everyone,
First time renovating my 4- room BTO flat, received quite a few quote, not sure if i missed out any other details.
The scope of the renovation work
-Kitchen (Cabinet, sliding to seperate kitchen and living room)
-Windows grilles for the entire flat( Service Yard, Living Room,MBR, Bedroom 1 & 2)
-Install sliding window at service yard.
-Painting and general cleaning of the flat.
-Electrical works
-Glass panel for MBR toilet
Quote No.1
A Wet Work
1 Supply labour & material to construct base for kitchen cabinet both side 1 lot 300.00
B Plumbing Work
1 Supply labour & materials to install kitchen sink and connect kitchen sink tap 1 lot 120.00
2 Supply labour to install bath room accessories 1 lot 60.00
C Windows and doors works
1 To fabricate and install entire whole house window grill in black color. *Note: only the middle porition of the window
117 sqf 994.50
**Optional: To increase height to cover full window height ( including top hung and fix
panel)(additional 42sqf S$357)
2 To fabricate and install sliding window @ service balcony (black frame with green tinted
glass)
36 sqf 576.00
D Wall Finishes
1 Supply and paint the entire unit in selected emulsion paint (ICI Dulux Wash and wear)
(max. 5 color)
1 lot 1,400.00 1,400.00
E Carpentry works (external in laminated finish with white PVC finish internally)
Cabinet are equip with normal soft closing for swing door and drawer
Kitchen
1 Fabricate and install top and bottom hung kitchen cabinet 25 ftr 120.00 3,000.00
2 Fabricate and install solid surface top to kitchen cabinet 16.5 ftr 80.00 1,320.00
Optional: Fabricate and install iQuartz top to kitchen cabinet (additional S$1085)
3 Fabricate and install Flip-up table top in laminate finish (size: 750mm by 600mm) 1 no 350.00
Master Bedroom
4 Fabricate and install cantilever TV console 5 ftr 650.00
Master Bedroom Toilet
5 Fabricate and install swing door mirror cabinet above wash basin and Water closet 4.5 ftr 585.00
Living room
6 Fabricate and install cantilever TV consoler 8 ftr 1,040.007 Fabricate and install laminated top baywindow cabinet with swing door opening from the
front side
11.5 ftr 1,495.00
F Glass Work
1 Supply and install tempered glass sliding door to entrance of the kitchen 1 lot 800.00
2 Supply and install fix tempered panel glass to master bedroom toilet in between water
closet and shower area (size: 900mm L by 1900mm Ht)
1 no 350.00
3 Supply and install fix tempered panel glass to common toilet in between water closet and
shower area (size: 800mm L by 1900mm Ht)
1 no 350.00
G Electrical Works
1 To install light fitting 12 nos 180.00
2 To install hood point switch control 1 no 40.00
H Others
1 Haulage of Goods and disposal of reno rubbish 1 lot 400.00
2 To chemical clean up floor and windows after renovation works 1 lot 400.00
Amount :14,410.50
7% GST :1,008.74
Total SGD :15,419.24Quote No.2
From a contractor, however there are no gst included.
1 Construct one no. toilet shower curb 110.00
2 Supply and install one no. sliding door tempered glass shower screen 650.00
3 Supply and instal one no. kitchen tempered glass sliding door. 730.00
4 Construct 2 nos. kitchen cabinet base 220.00
5 Construct kitchen basin concrete stand 650.00
6 Supply and install one no. kitchen high and low cabinet in laminate finish. 2,380.00
7 Supply and install one no. granti table top 930.00
8 Supply and install one no. kitchen low cabinet in laminate finish. 1,100.00
9 Supply and install one no. granti table top 1,030.00
10 Connect the water tap and drainage pipe 90.00
11 Supply and install service balcony sliding door window 500.00
12 Supply and install living room & 3 bedrooms aluminium window grille 550.00
13 Window film for living room, 3 bedrooms and service balcony (USA product) 1,100.00
14 Painting whole house (Nippon or ICI), Matex (white) for ceiling 1,300.00
15 Supply and install living room low cabinet in laminate finish. 880.00
16 Chemical wash whole house flooring 250.00
17 Cartoon cardboard cover flooring 150.00
Grand total :
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Is this the Mr K everyone looking for ?
http://www.renotalk.com/forum/topic/62409-which-id-to-choose-from/page-2
A Poor Man's Budget Home
in Reno t-Blog Chat - HDB BTO Interior Design and Renovation
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Find it tiring to repeat the renovation scope and specification to those renovators sometimes and the pressure also kicked in when relatives know that we have gotten the keys for months and yet to start any work. At times, although we told the id about our budget and requirements, they still propose a renovation that is higher then our budget or etc.