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hi,you can use the search button and you will see alot of review about A&T.I can't tell you much about their service but you can read it all here.

does anyone know where is the place that sell plate which channel u introduce on 02/04/08.i think it's somewhere near j.chiat.does anyone know where is ther actual address?

Hi Cantona7,we did check with JERRY regarding what if we don't take up his reno when we had pay the $300 for the drawing.He told us we can take back the drawing as we pay for it and that's all. Still remember he did mentioned that the drawing need $300 that much is because his company bought the software to do the drawing and the software cost a bomb.And he also say that even if we don't let them do the reno,we can take the 3D drawing to other id firm and told them we want to do the design if we like.BUT...he told evilevo that the drawing is under his company rights and we cannot show it to other companys when we decided not to engage them. !! This JERRYwill do all the sweet talking to get you pay for this and if things not turning out the way he wants,he will tell you another things.

Hi Jazz..... Thanks for your suggestion....ya...for my case,things have gone abit far already.I will discuss with evilevo regarding this.

Hi Jazz..... The UNPROFESSIONAL JERRY didn't told us for the $300,we can exchange for furnitures with the same value (carpentry).JERRY only told us that he can do the amendment of the 3D drawing as many time till we are satify with the outcome.And i remember Clearly that we did ask JERRY what if we didn't take up the reno with them,JERRY told us we can take the 3D drawing as we pay for it.(But JERRY had told Evilevo that it's under ARTS & THOTS COPYRIGHT WHEN WE DECIDED NOT TO ENGAGE THEM)Now i'm really curious does it mean that under the company,they have different rules and regulation?Some can exchange for furnitures and some can't.Or it's depend on the ID?Shouldn't they have only 1 rules and regulation across.This will only be fair to the customers who sign up with them.If not,then does it mean that the customers will have to depend on their luck coz they can suka suka tell u this and some other IDs in the company might tell you other things.Think tomorrow i will have to call up Small Claims Tribunal Court to check with them.

Thanks appleimac.We can only consider ourself lucky that we didn't sign the contract with ARTS & THOTS (JERRY) although we did loose out on the $300.But i rather waste the $300 than to sign up the contract with JERRY which the quotation he quote us came up to around $27K.Jerry is so unprofessional towards his works.Maybe i should start a new topic warning people out there regarding Jerry working attitude.

Me & Evilevo was glad that we DIDN'T choose JERRY from Arts & Thots as our ID. I believe that JERRY was looking at this forum too since he did sms me asking why evilevo doing the posting here. Just to let people's out there who are browsing this forum to take note and be aware of what had happened between us and JERRY from ARTS & Thots. We are not Badmouthing, Slandering or doing any Personal Attacks on anyone.This is the facts that had actually happened between JERRY and ME juz an hour ago. I will just type out what he had just sms me and if any of his company colleagues or managers happen to see this threat,you are most welcome to look for me and i will show you the message in my mobile that JERRY had sent me. 17/10/07 21:42 (From Jerry):Hi i suppose u didn't talk to yr wife right?coz she is still commenting in the forum adding more thing now. 21:53 (from Me):Hi,i did talk to my wife and i juz went to the forum and see.From what i see she is just stating the facts.She didn't add salt or anythings right.But i did saw others people comments about you lei. 22:06 (from Jerry): This is business mah.If the deal is off due to the service or other reason.We should say it out mah not just keep quiet and let it be den bad mouth on the other party mah.And if there is any unhappiness y dun just put it to a stop and that it.And i did not say i not returning u yr money mah.if i can't perform i will return u this is what i told u right? 22:35 (from me) : Jerry,i dun think evilevo did bad mouth about you.In facts she is the one who say u good when we first met up with u and she's also the one who convince me to pay e $300 to u.I remember clearly that u did told us we can ask you to do e amendment 3D drawing till we are comfortable.No matter how many times right.But after the first drawing u did say that it's no point when we request to do the amendment.it's not that we keep quiet.just that since u told us in this way then it's pointless for us to demand e amendment drawing from you again and again as we know that you won't do it. (WE DID MENTIONED WE PAY THE $300 WHEN WE WERE IN YOUR OFFICE BUT YOU KEEP SAYING NO POINT TO DO AND KEEP ASKING US TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT).I remember clearly that u didn't mentioned that e $300 will be refund to us.SO now it can be refund ar izzit? 22:39: (From Jerry)Hope you know what u r doing/saying.the world is round. 22:44 : (from Me): can i know what you mean by this?so right now e refund things u say juz now is for the sake of saying? 22:50 : (from Jerry) : just write what u want la.anyway u already pay for it and thank you so much i getting famous nowadays.just got another deal liao.it's like people juz coming to find me.hahaha...i got better things to do. 22:54: (from me) : didn't expect you to be so childish.i will only write and onli state e facts and i won't add anythings that is not true. The above are the sms that we had. We know that the $300 will be gone and i also didn't expect Jerry/Arts & Thots to refund us.For what i believe that this is an OPEN forum,we just want to share what we had met and experience and don't wish to see any others peoples to get the S*IT* that we had with JERRY from Arts & Thots. I believe that ARTS & THOTS might be having other good ID's BUT i can gurantee that it won't be JERRY with his kind of service attitude.Nowadays with this kind of service attitude,it will only be chasing the company business away. I really can't imagine what if we had choosen JERRY to be our ID and we had to take up all his S*its. Jerry if you are browsing this forum,you know my new address and if i happened to see anythings go wrong in my new unit,you be will the first one to get suspect.This is from what you had sms me saying that "the world is round". Hi Jolin,thanks for your advise.I will call up CASE tomorrow to check.