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If you have power which is able to sustain 2 compressors.. then its legal.. The reason why its illegal is due to the power cap at your flat. Eg. Power provided for a new flat is a total of 40A.. if can have 2 compressor 2x15A and the other 10A for the rest of the house. If you have lesser than that... then 2 compressor is not possible. It ultimately depends on how much power you need to cool your place down... instantly or slowly but surely.. the higher the btu the stronger the compressor but the price will go up as well. Finally inverter technology is kind of a farce... alot of feedback from forummers and friends indicate that the savings do not justify the cost if you under utilise the compressor. furthermore spare parts are extremely expensive. Based on you concerns maybe find 2nd or 3rd opinions by searching for a few other vendors and discuss with them you concerns... If you are interested I can forward you my aircon guy contact... I found him honest in the questions asked and he makes effort to make trunking less obvious. Cheers Hope it helps. Cheers!

I agree with you... I personally wanted to have a 4 +1. But my aircon guy offered something I could not refuse.. an extra $600 for another compressor for the hall... So that's why i took it. If the price was higher than that, I would have sticked to just 4 + 1 for $2700.. Cheers.

Yes it is... For older hdb flats... its not possible cause the power is insufficient. But for newer flats its possible. cheers!

pm u already... cheers!

its actually all non inverter. Its quite logical, if you are not using the 2/3 of the aircon strength all the time, there is no need to get an inverter, plus the fact that an inverter technology parts are more expensive and harder to come by if there is an upgrade. I got the 18k btu for the hall because there was a special promo by daikin at S$600 if not I would have used a 20k btu for the entire flat as I do not use the aircon for the hall regularly but it will become a selling point 5 years down the road. cheers

Hi All, I got a good quotation for my aircon and so I went for it. Its Daikin 3+1 for the room at 20k btu and daikin 1+1 for the hall at 18k btu. Total is S$3330. All accessories upgraded. 1/2" amaflex 22 guage copper and 16" drainage. Do pm me if you are interested in it or come to see my place at pinnacles to get ideas for your place. Cheers!

goobii, there are too many brands out in the market to choose from... Basically I split it out into 2 categories Health purpose Filter purpose. Filter purpose: for filtering out impurities and removal of chemicals. Range from low - mid prices... starting from $100 to $1000 *dun bother about mlm companies filters... they are just too expensive. Brands such as Hyflux and cleansui filter models have good filteration systems, NSF certification is impt here as it will tell you how much and what kind of impurities it can remove. Health purpose: other than just filtering, consumers want something extra for their health. Price range from mid - high $1000 onwards There are 2 types of systems here that I know of.. water Ionizers and magnetic resonance systems. Brands such as Jupiter (water ionizer) and MRET (magnetic resonance) have good reputable scientific and clinical research. Health benefits include smaller water clusters, alkalinity, antioxidants... etc... * Again dun bother abt mlm companies... they are way too ex.... Finally pls do some research b4 getting a system... properties of the system, budget and after sales service is important

some updates... visited Renozone's condo work... Looks very impressive. The owner is very happy with the works done... Now is all about the cost of doing our flat... I hope we can compromise as much as possible to make this happen.

Seashells... sigh... seriously..... I do not know what else to say.... but for the sake of the debate... let me "explain" again... I wish to meet him in person... except he is nowhere to be found. Thinking back... when he was suspose to be in Singpore to give a talk on the ionization process method in NUSS guild.... Someone mentioned he was down with flu????? Recently at H20 grand openings at 2 showrooms... I am surprise that even the "Dr. KYK" did not turn up. I would very much like to talk to him about his system and discuss with him on water issues. The awards as mentioned... based on the grand opening, I see that there are duplicate certs and at least half of them are not even important. If you wish to know more do some homework please... I do not wish to feed everyone and then be called "Kemp Trading" marketing arm.. Its interesting to note that "Dr. KYK" has been researching since 1980... I am not sure when he got his "Dr.". To do scientific research you need to be a phD 1st. But based on his age... there is hardly any evidences to prove otherwise. Please you your maths.. 2009 -1980 = 29years? lets say kim is 59-29=30? To get a phD at 30 is amazing.... a phD in singpaore you would be 32 at least. Do let us know where he did his research and I can find out if its true. I do not personally know Kim so if H20 can provide evidence other than just a script... it would be able to solve everything. Again... Larger surface area is NOT able to give u better alkaline water or ORP. Check it out with a orp meter and stop relying on the system to "artifically" boost your confidence on the product. A preset ORP means it will just run up to that orp number but it is not exact and definately not accurate... "Dr. Kim" would have known that. There are lots of indepent studies on ORP and alkalinity... however I do not see an independent study by KYK but relying on website with financial interest in KYK products... If you are looking for a link to where KYK got the systems and plates from... find Yi shan electric and compare it with KYK9988, KYK9040gold, KYK8000, KYK7788... that is your smoking gun. The Genesis is the only mould that is genunine KYK... Lastly... mesh electrodes are the next generation for ionizers... A check with other brands in USA indicates that a few top end companies are moving to mesh electrodes as well... check charston, lifeionizers etc. Isnt is appropriate that Lexus Vs susuki.... Lexus made in Taiwan while susuki in Japan??? Lastly please do some simple research, the web has tons of info that you will be able to find that will prove the point.There is no need to investigate deeply.. If in doubt do not act until its confirmed beyond doubt. I think I should stop all this and head back to bargaining with my ID now.. need to confirm 1 of them by this week... urghh Cheers

Hi Star, Thanks for the information, Generally I think filters are still filters unless they have other special things about them. By far and large, most companies that you contact is a filter company. Moreover I dun think too well on companies that sell their system on a MLM concept. There is too much monies going to the pockets of people and not much savings to consumers. Thats the reason why I am very picky on any systems I buy...try to be closer to the manufactuer as possible. E.g. I got to know someone inside philips... can get me staff price on my soundbar and tv.... so happy.... if not I will be paying through my nose for them... haha

cant do much.... both of them are very open and honest about it. But I hope they can try to accomadate and compromise... with us to meet the price in the middle... We have already started to pare off some of the unimportant ones... so we hope to meet our "revised" budget

Got the information from cleansui for the undersink unit. Its basically a 3pc platinum titanium plates. The alkaline water system I am using is 5plate.... so I dun think I will accept a step backwards..... If budget is possible I'll still take the Jupiter delphi. If not a Jupiter Alphion maybe the next possible option... but highly unlikely for cleansui... unless they have a 5 plate for me consider.

I know intra is good... but price wise... is on the steep side... If I am to choose them, I might consider doing away with some stuff....

hi neighbour!! I have shortlist 2 IDs to do the work... Intra design and Renozone. slowing do some research.. n quickly catch up... u are late already!!! jia you!!

ya mm Lee will hand 50 lucky ppl with their keys.... we might be sitting on paper gain... but no one know 5 years down.... fingers cross!

Rooms are woodworks. tiles in the living,hall and kitchen...

Thks Reno only when get the keys... budget abt 15k last time... Now upped to 20k... still not enough... sigh... this is only for carpentry works... have not add in the furnitures and big ticket items....

Ai Yo, How I wished they paid me for this....haha then I would get some kopi money... but unfortunately they don't. Want to do biz, H20 might be better..., new alkaline system coming into market, seems very sleek looking and by evergreen stationary. I'm good at health issues, cos that is my hobby and education... but as for the rest.. I would need to learn from you all. If all uncomfortable, then I refrain from posting more stuff. Goobii, if you see my other postings in renotalk, you would know tat I am about to reside at Pinnacle@duston after 5 years of long waiting ... now I am sourcing for ID and other stuff. So that may give you guys some misunderstanding... Anyway regarding cleansui, the pictures you showed... I have seen them too at tangs, problem is that I know what the Jupiter Delphi will be top and bottom, but I cant see it for cleansui undersink in real life. I believed that you installed the cleansui undersink right?, is it possible to post them here? The only 2 system that is undersink is only this 2 which I am considering for my new house. I have tried calling cleansui them but so far no response.. will try again soon. Thanks in advance for helping

Hi joeeeng, I'm an amateur too... staying at the 31st floor... hope everything will be ok. cheers!

Hi joeeeng, I'm an amateur too... staying at the 31st floor... hope everything will be ok. cheers!

thks... will send you all my pic and drawing soon.... after i finally signup my ID.. which is giving me the headache....

not sure abt the power.... hear there is limited 13A power points for the home.. checking my pinnacle handbook... if I knew where i kept it fater 4 year + of waiting

1st batch 4rm.... I thought abt having 2 systems... but they will take up 2 13A space right?? this mean I will not have enough power for other stuff....

Ya very sad... II am not switching on my aircon in all rooms all the time....... sigh... Think companies are jumping on the wagon... to earn more money from us non suspecting dwellers.... Heard Daikin has non inverters... trying to find out as much as possible..

Hi seashells, Basically you could check through a phone call if they did not specify the number of plates..... or mesh for instance.... I must admit, I am kind of extreme... especially health wise... .. friends who need health advice find me... but I am a flop in other areas... ..... bad at finding good places to eat (dun even ask me.. i might just bring you to your worst nightmare food stall... ..bad at renovation stuff.... etc... (having big headache to choose ID now sigh bad at investment... (got burned many times) As far as I know... plate size does not constitute to better anti-oxidants values... and this is why. Technology is getting things to become stronger yet smaller.. If I told someone that the in thing now is a CRT TV, they would be wondering which parallel dimension am I from... The latest TV is LED thinner than a lcd or plasma.. yet LED is still not a full LED.. to TV are getting slimmer.... Likewise lot of stuff in our household are getting smaller but more efficient... remembered how long it took to boil water last time? now it takes half that time... As scientists we know the difficulties and stress of maintaining and calibrating probes to test all kinds of stuff... from pH, TDS (total dissolve solids), ORP etc.. we need to calibrate it all the time... these systems are needed to test stuff but the maintainance... gosh.. its a killer.... So when u see the KYK system telling u this is the ORP value (oxidative reduction potential) or pH you are getting now... I was like rolling my eyes... if there was such a system or tester that do not need calibration I would be the 1st to buy that stuff and not waste life calibrating my testers... but honestly its untrue and I dun know why they put in in there. To answer your question on Dr. KYK, I once shared a office space with a financial investor in my previous work and when I talked to him one day after he got some award (best trust fund award 2007) he said the award was nothing and it could easily be bought... I do not imply all awards are scam but some are not as "BIG" as what they made it out to be. Honestly... I do not know who is making it up it could be Korea or locally.... At the end of the day.... do find out more before committing to a water ionizer. Example below.... My latest project... doing major homework on a soundbar for my new home cos I hate wires... taking me a long time cos I am a sound idiot.... when I go to Philips they say it so so so good.. When I go to yamaha and told them about Philips being good.. they rolled eyeball..... Cheers!