Nipponho 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2007 Hi,I have some lighting problems which I don’t know what is the best way to solve. Any experienced souls here kind enough to guide me? I just got keys for my 3I hdb, excited but stressed like crazy. Stressed bec of ignorance.My living room is a pathetic 2850 X 6800, 3I old model & bec of this I want to use a chandelier or crystal lighting to enhance the aesthetics. The problem with crystal lights is that it is very warm & energy consuming, so it is not suitable for nightly use if you do not switch on aircon. So I intend to switch on the chandelier on cool nights, or weekends when friends come over, or when I feel moody. On daily use, I intend to have energy saving options that is bright.Fengshui master says ceiling must not be too messy or too much patterns or cramped, will cause stress. It’s ugly to have a 40watt circular lamp side by side with chandelier. I also don’t want to invest in false ceiling, the ceiling looks lower. There is already cornice, but the cornice is designed such that only the 4 corners allows lights. Middle of perimeter is too thin to install any lights.Question :Panasonic 40 watts extra bright circular lamp can light up a living room. But I saw some Philips tornado lights, it says 20 watts amplified to 100 watts. Does it mean that 1 or 2 Philips is bright enough for at least half the living room? If yes, I can install 2 or 3 (without casing) besides crystal lights. Philips lights is small, and can be easily “obliterated” by the ling ling long long crystals.Another alternative is to buy horizontal metal support & drill onto wall below the perimeter of cornice, & then fix 2 or 3 philips bulbs on both sides of the living room. If I do like this and tilt the bulbs to point to the centre of living room, can the 20 watts bulbs deliver lights to the middle of the hall, is it bright enough? Halogen lights look nice without any casings but Philips lights look ugly if exposed. My problem now is I need bulbs that are small like Philips, yet bright yet energy save.Help me! Immense gratitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted November 11, 2007 (edited) the tornado lights are very bright - but ugly.it all depends on you as i think you are more on LOOKs.for a 3room , 1x32w circular lamp is good enough to brighten the livingroom.what about those standing lamps that project the light to the ceiling? place at the corners? Edited November 11, 2007 by MaCe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nipponho 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2007 Yeah, tornado bulbs are ugly if exposed, looks like coffee shop toilet. Oops, if i instal exposed tornado bulbs, will my living hall look like toilet? Hahahaha. No choice. If i use covers, i am afraid brightness compromised, plus bulky too.I want looks & practicality too, I want both 40w circular & crystal lights, but cannot, that is the frustration, one has to go. So now i am considering having the crystal lights & 2 tornado. I think 2 tornado should be equivalent to 1 40w circular (i think). I hope 2 exposed tornado is bright enough for the living room.If it is corner, i no need stand lamps, bec corner of cornice should thick enough to squeeze one tornado. Maybe stick out a little bit, no choice. It is the centre part of the living room that I don't know how to deliver the lights.That kind of lamps that u are talking about looks like ambience ambience type. But i am not at the ceiling, hahah, so better to project the lights to the sofa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted November 12, 2007 I want looks & practicality too, I want both 40w circular & crystal lights, but cannot, that is the frustration, one has to go. So now i am considering having the crystal lights & 2 tornado. I think 2 tornado should be equivalent to 1 40w circular (i think). I hope 2 exposed tornado is bright enough for the living room.they are bright enough but - depends on where you put them.those 12w tornados are extremely bright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nipponho 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2007 U used tornado before? I never used tornado before. My existing house lights are mostly circular. When u say 12w bright enough, are u saying "a few 12w combined" is bright enough? I peeped at some 4 room flats, i saw that they used many philips bulb hidden inside false ceiling, at least 6-8 in living room, not tornado, it is another type, long "n" shaped type. "n" shape small letter n. I see people using so many, & i use only 1 or 2, I hope is enough, anyway my living room so small. Or is it that they are too kiasu.If your experience is 12 w is bright enough, i think if i put 2 in the middle of the room, exposed, just next to the chandelier, 20w each, should be more than enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaCe 3 Report post Posted November 12, 2007 If your experience is 12 w is bright enough, i think if i put 2 in the middle of the room, exposed, just next to the chandelier, 20w each, should be more than enough.yes, i believe it's enough. but make sure it's the tornado and not other similiar types. they only have 2 sizes, 8w and 12w. they are very bright due to new tech. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites