and888 1 Report post Posted June 20, 2012 yup, go for more sources, it will give u more bargaining power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ideal78 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) Thanks ppl for your advise!I shall source for another ID and make a comparison then, but sometimes its difficult to tell a real ID from a contractor as there are many contractors around stating that they are a interior design firm.Hi Storm79 Is not that difficult to tell different between ID & contractor, actually by looking at the price you should know real ID film pricing not much different say about 1-2k different ba, but as for contractor the price is different by 3-5k. but nevertheless between ID & contractor, i will rather use ID as i don't need to have much headache about handling the contractor, i just need to narrow down to 1 person. My 3cents worth of suggestion. hhehehe.Maybe you would like to try one of the ID i had known ? as he had done up my house twice and my auntie current house, That i had recommended to her & she is quite happy with the works that they had done. If you needed i can always PM you the address & and his contact number. Hear that he's company had a showroom in Toa Payoh. Let me know if you needed.cheers Edited June 20, 2012 by ideal78 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Storm79 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2012 Hi Storm79 Is not that difficult to tell different between ID & contractor, actually by looking at the price you should know real ID film pricing not much different say about 1-2k different ba, but as for contractor the price is different by 3-5k. but nevertheless between ID & contractor, i will rather use ID as i don't need to have much headache about handling the contractor, i just need to narrow down to 1 person. My 3cents worth of suggestion. hhehehe.Maybe you would like to try one of the ID i had known ? as he had done up my house twice and my auntie current house, That i had recommended to her & she is quite happy with the works that they had done. If you needed i can always PM you the address & and his contact number. Hear that he's company had a showroom in Toa Payoh. Let me know if you needed.cheersHi ideal78 for the advise . I will get back to u if I still fail to get a few more quotes from the ID which I have short listed till date . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Storm79 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2012 Or maybe someone could tell me what's the average market rate of the items from ID not contractor. I.e full height wardrobe per ft run n kitchen cabinet per ft run , feature wall per ft run , The stuff that I listed above . Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyong500 4 Report post Posted June 20, 2012 I went to compare my quote with a few in the forum, my capentry is indeed on the ex side but what I feel is that she did not charge me item by item for supplying of labor to install the accessories and piping/ sink/basin and also haulage.Not so sure if this is justifiable. In a dilemma now..hehE.Heyz storm,Actually i feel hor... It also depends on the chemistry between you and the ID too. More chemistry = easier to communicate ma means can convey messages to him/her better also. Cuz i think so far the house owners i met and heard about all asked about site coordination and stuff. Important la... It is always good to have someone there to look after your reno rite? or at least a frequent update on the progress? Many other things count too like service quality, etc.Oh and of cuz the workmanship. Better quality material and workmanship more ex lo. Apple to apple comparison theory as many would say. Erm usually electrical works is also quoted de... at least for mine.Dun dilemma this is part of the reno journey! Have fun dude!Cheers,MikeWellz my a little bit of advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Storm79 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2012 This is another quote I got from another recommended ID by the forum, what do you all think? S/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE 1 Design consultation & space planning FOC2 Design proposal & prespective drawings FOC3 Selection of colour, material & accessories FOC4 Site co-ordination & supervision FOC5 Decoration advice FOC6 Apply HDB hacking permit FOCA HACKING WORKS 1 To demolish existing wall inbetween Dining & Kitchen (6ft L) $600.00 (Subject to HDB approval, not include P.E endorsement (P.E charges from $600 to $800) 2 To demolish existing wall inbetween MBR & Bedroom 2 (6ft L) $600.00 (Subject to HDB approval, not include P.E endorsement (P.E charges from $600 to $800) 3 To dismantle existing wash basin, toilet bowl & shower set at master toilet $300.00B MASONRY WORKS (Range of tiles up to $3.20) (Additional top up cost for higher range) 1 Supply materials & labour to overlay homogeneous non-slip floor tiles at master toilet $450.002 Supply materials & labour to overlay ceramic wall tiles at master toilet (203sf) $1,421.003 Supply & construct 2nos. shower kerb,with tiles at master & common toilet $160.004 Supply materials & labour to touch up & make good of wall & floor after $450.00 hacking of wall inbetween Living & kitchen 5 Supply materials & labour to touch up & make good of wall & floor after $300.00 hacking of wall inbetween MBR & Bedroom 2 C SHOWER SCREEN / FRAMELESS SANDBLASTED GLASS DOOR (10mm thick tempered glass) 1 Supply & install 10mm thick clear tempered shower screen c/w swing door $550.00 at master toilet 2 Supply & install 10mm thick clear tempered shower screen fix panel $350.00 at common toilet D PLUMBING WORK (OWNER SUPPLY FITTING) 1 Supply & install water inlet & outlet pipe for sink in kitchen $280.002 Supply labour to install kitchen sink $80.003 Supply labour to install kitchen tap FOC4 Supply & install water inlet & outlet pipe for washing machine $60.005 Supply labour to install 2 sets toilets accessories in 2 toilets. $60.006 Supply labour to install 01 no. of storage tank heater at common toilet $80.007 Supply labour to install WC at master toilet $80.008 Supply labour to connect & install basin & tap at master toilet $80.009 Supply labour to install rain shower set at master toilet $80.00E PAINTING WORKS- PREMIUM PACKAGE- ICI WASH & WEAR/ LIGHT & SPACE/ ALL IN 1 1 To paint whole house using ICI / Nippon Paint $1,400.00a To paint whole house expose copper/pvc pipes FOCb To paint existing door frame FOCc 5 + 1 colors F CEILING WORKS 1 To supply & install false ceiling at Entrance, Living, Dining & Passageway (232sf) $881.60 2 To supply & install L-Box **** (17ft L) $255.00 3 To supply & install cove light holder **** (17ft L) $187.004 To supply & install L-Box at Dining (20ft L) $300.00 5 To supply & install cove light holder at Dining (17ft L) $187.006 To supply & install false ceiling at MBR (110sf) $418.00 S/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICE7 To supply & install L-Box at MBR (18ft L) $270.00 8 To supply & install cove light holder at MBR (18ft L) $198.00G ALUMINIUM WORK SLIDING WINDOW 1 Supply & install aluminium sliding window at service yard (36sf) $684.00 (Frame colour: Silver) (Glass color: Green) H CUSTOM-MADE FURNITURE ( External: Selected Laminate with Internal : Carcass in White PVC Finish ) To supply Labour, Tools And Materials To Install : ENTRANCE AREA 1 Design & fabricate Simple Full height shoe rack at Entrance (3ft L) OPTION 1 $660.00 Design & fabricate Full height shoe rack c/w display in middle $840.00 OPTION 2 compartment( laminate finish) at Entrance (3ft L) a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in pvc finish LIVING AREA 2 Design & fabricate Suspended TV console **** (7ft L) $910.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Aluminium frame glass / laminate door 3 Design & fabricate Full height Feature wall on top of TV console (7ft L) $1,960.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Stainless steel strips / glass / tinted mirror feature 4 Design & fabricate Black tinted mirror c/w wooden backing at dining area (5ft L x 8ft H) $1,000.00a Selected Laminate finish b side by side cove lights feature 5 Design & fabricate solid wood pillar with design **** area (4pillars) $960.00a Selected Laminate finish b Size per pillar (100mm W x 100mm L) c glass design MASTER BEDROOM 6 Design & fabricate Aluminium sliding door Wardrobe at MBR (6ft L) $1,740.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Sliding door opening d lockable drawer unit e Adjustable shelves f Pull out mirror ($180) FOCg Laminate backing (32sf) $320.00S/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICE7 Design & fabricate Low height storage cabinet (10ft L) $1,250.00a laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c flip up door 8 Design & fabricate Half height Feature wall on top TV console (6ft L) $900.00a Selected Laminate finish b top & bottom cove lights feature c 1no. Of shelve panel (2ft L)($250) FOC BEDROOM 2 9 Design & fabricate Full Height Casement door Wardrobe (4ft L) $880.00 a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Casement door opening d lockable drawer unit MASTER BATHROOM 10 Design & fabricate Suspended Vanity cabinet at master toilet (6ft L) $840.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish SOLID TOP/ MIRROR 11 Supply & install Solid Surface top above vanity cabinet (6ft L) $510.0012 Supply & install full length mirror c/w wooden backing for light holder at $720.00 master toilet (6ft L) COMMON BATHROOM 13 Design & fabricate Suspended Vanity cabinet at common toilet (3ft L) $420.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish SOLID TOP/ MIRROR 14 Supply & install Solid Surface top above vanity cabinet (3ft L) $255.0015 Supply & install full length mirror at common toilet (3ft L) $220.00 KITCHEN CABINET 16 Design & fabricate kitchen cabinet complete with : a Top Hung cabinet 19ft L $1,900.00b Bottom cabinet (Suspended design) 19ft L $1,900.00c Bar Counter (Solid surface top) 4ft L $700.00d Glass Backing 16ft L $1,040.00e doors in seleted laminate finish and ABS trimmings f internal carcass in pvc finish g cutley tray 1 no. FOCh s/s dish rack 1 no. $160.00i installation of hob, hood (item supply by owner) 1 no. FOCj Aluminium frames with sandblasted glass door 1 no. $180.00k BLUM Anti-slum hinges ($12.00 per hinge) KIVl BLUM system drawer track ($120 to $180 per track depend on drawer size) KIVS/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICEI SOLID SURFACE TOP / GRANITE TOP 1 Supply & install Solid surface top at kitchen approx. (19ft L) OPTION 1 $1,615.002 Supply & install Granite top at kitchen approx. (19ft L) $2,470.00 OPTION 2J CLEANING WORK 1 Haulage & Remove Debris (Pay to HDB's appointed contractor) $550.002 Supply Corrugated board to protect existing flooring $380.003 Supply labour with acid washing whole house (non-parquet areas) FOC4 Supply labour for general cleaning before hand over of house FOCSIN DOLLARS: T/TOTAL : $32,731.60 DISCOUNT : $1,731.60 G/TOTAL : $31,000.00 TERMS & CONDITIONS Payment Terms 10% of Contract Sum upon Signing & Confirmation 50% of Contract Sum upon Commencement of works 35% of Contract Sum upon Commencement of Carpentry works at Factory 05% of Contract Sum upon Completion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaskel 2 Report post Posted June 29, 2012 This is another quote I got from another recommended ID by the forum, what do you all think? S/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE 1 Design consultation & space planning FOC2 Design proposal & prespective drawings FOC3 Selection of colour, material & accessories FOC4 Site co-ordination & supervision FOC5 Decoration advice FOC6 Apply HDB hacking permit FOCA HACKING WORKS 1 To demolish existing wall inbetween Dining & Kitchen (6ft L) $600.00 (Subject to HDB approval, not include P.E endorsement (P.E charges from $600 to $800) 2 To demolish existing wall inbetween MBR & Bedroom 2 (6ft L) $600.00 (Subject to HDB approval, not include P.E endorsement (P.E charges from $600 to $800) 3 To dismantle existing wash basin, toilet bowl & shower set at master toilet $300.00B MASONRY WORKS (Range of tiles up to $3.20) (Additional top up cost for higher range) 1 Supply materials & labour to overlay homogeneous non-slip floor tiles at master toilet $450.002 Supply materials & labour to overlay ceramic wall tiles at master toilet (203sf) $1,421.003 Supply & construct 2nos. shower kerb,with tiles at master & common toilet $160.004 Supply materials & labour to touch up & make good of wall & floor after $450.00 hacking of wall inbetween Living & kitchen 5 Supply materials & labour to touch up & make good of wall & floor after $300.00 hacking of wall inbetween MBR & Bedroom 2 C SHOWER SCREEN / FRAMELESS SANDBLASTED GLASS DOOR (10mm thick tempered glass) 1 Supply & install 10mm thick clear tempered shower screen c/w swing door $550.00 at master toilet 2 Supply & install 10mm thick clear tempered shower screen fix panel $350.00 at common toilet D PLUMBING WORK (OWNER SUPPLY FITTING) 1 Supply & install water inlet & outlet pipe for sink in kitchen $280.002 Supply labour to install kitchen sink $80.003 Supply labour to install kitchen tap FOC4 Supply & install water inlet & outlet pipe for washing machine $60.005 Supply labour to install 2 sets toilets accessories in 2 toilets. $60.006 Supply labour to install 01 no. of storage tank heater at common toilet $80.007 Supply labour to install WC at master toilet $80.008 Supply labour to connect & install basin & tap at master toilet $80.009 Supply labour to install rain shower set at master toilet $80.00E PAINTING WORKS- PREMIUM PACKAGE- ICI WASH & WEAR/ LIGHT & SPACE/ ALL IN 1 1 To paint whole house using ICI / Nippon Paint $1,400.00a To paint whole house expose copper/pvc pipes FOCb To paint existing door frame FOCc 5 + 1 colors F CEILING WORKS 1 To supply & install false ceiling at Entrance, Living, Dining & Passageway (232sf) $881.60 2 To supply & install L-Box **** (17ft L) $255.00 3 To supply & install cove light holder **** (17ft L) $187.004 To supply & install L-Box at Dining (20ft L) $300.00 5 To supply & install cove light holder at Dining (17ft L) $187.006 To supply & install false ceiling at MBR (110sf) $418.00 S/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICE7 To supply & install L-Box at MBR (18ft L) $270.00 8 To supply & install cove light holder at MBR (18ft L) $198.00G ALUMINIUM WORK SLIDING WINDOW 1 Supply & install aluminium sliding window at service yard (36sf) $684.00 (Frame colour: Silver) (Glass color: Green) H CUSTOM-MADE FURNITURE ( External: Selected Laminate with Internal : Carcass in White PVC Finish ) To supply Labour, Tools And Materials To Install : ENTRANCE AREA 1 Design & fabricate Simple Full height shoe rack at Entrance (3ft L) OPTION 1 $660.00 Design & fabricate Full height shoe rack c/w display in middle $840.00 OPTION 2 compartment( laminate finish) at Entrance (3ft L) a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in pvc finish LIVING AREA 2 Design & fabricate Suspended TV console **** (7ft L) $910.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Aluminium frame glass / laminate door 3 Design & fabricate Full height Feature wall on top of TV console (7ft L) $1,960.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Stainless steel strips / glass / tinted mirror feature 4 Design & fabricate Black tinted mirror c/w wooden backing at dining area (5ft L x 8ft H) $1,000.00a Selected Laminate finish b side by side cove lights feature 5 Design & fabricate solid wood pillar with design **** area (4pillars) $960.00a Selected Laminate finish b Size per pillar (100mm W x 100mm L) c glass design MASTER BEDROOM 6 Design & fabricate Aluminium sliding door Wardrobe at MBR (6ft L) $1,740.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Sliding door opening d lockable drawer unit e Adjustable shelves f Pull out mirror ($180) FOCg Laminate backing (32sf) $320.00S/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICE7 Design & fabricate Low height storage cabinet (10ft L) $1,250.00a laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c flip up door 8 Design & fabricate Half height Feature wall on top TV console (6ft L) $900.00a Selected Laminate finish b top & bottom cove lights feature c 1no. Of shelve panel (2ft L)($250) FOC BEDROOM 2 9 Design & fabricate Full Height Casement door Wardrobe (4ft L) $880.00 a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish c Casement door opening d lockable drawer unit MASTER BATHROOM 10 Design & fabricate Suspended Vanity cabinet at master toilet (6ft L) $840.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish SOLID TOP/ MIRROR 11 Supply & install Solid Surface top above vanity cabinet (6ft L) $510.0012 Supply & install full length mirror c/w wooden backing for light holder at $720.00 master toilet (6ft L) COMMON BATHROOM 13 Design & fabricate Suspended Vanity cabinet at common toilet (3ft L) $420.00a Selected Laminate finish b internal carcass in white pvc finish SOLID TOP/ MIRROR 14 Supply & install Solid Surface top above vanity cabinet (3ft L) $255.0015 Supply & install full length mirror at common toilet (3ft L) $220.00 KITCHEN CABINET 16 Design & fabricate kitchen cabinet complete with : a Top Hung cabinet 19ft L $1,900.00b Bottom cabinet (Suspended design) 19ft L $1,900.00c Bar Counter (Solid surface top) 4ft L $700.00d Glass Backing 16ft L $1,040.00e doors in seleted laminate finish and ABS trimmings f internal carcass in pvc finish g cutley tray 1 no. FOCh s/s dish rack 1 no. $160.00i installation of hob, hood (item supply by owner) 1 no. FOCj Aluminium frames with sandblasted glass door 1 no. $180.00k BLUM Anti-slum hinges ($12.00 per hinge) KIVl BLUM system drawer track ($120 to $180 per track depend on drawer size) KIVS/N DESCRIPTION T/PRICEI SOLID SURFACE TOP / GRANITE TOP 1 Supply & install Solid surface top at kitchen approx. (19ft L) OPTION 1 $1,615.002 Supply & install Granite top at kitchen approx. (19ft L) $2,470.00 OPTION 2J CLEANING WORK 1 Haulage & Remove Debris (Pay to HDB's appointed contractor) $550.002 Supply Corrugated board to protect existing flooring $380.003 Supply labour with acid washing whole house (non-parquet areas) FOC4 Supply labour for general cleaning before hand over of house FOCSIN DOLLARS: T/TOTAL : $32,731.60 DISCOUNT : $1,731.60 G/TOTAL : $31,000.00 TERMS & CONDITIONS Payment Terms 10% of Contract Sum upon Signing & Confirmation 50% of Contract Sum upon Commencement of works 35% of Contract Sum upon Commencement of Carpentry works at Factory 05% of Contract Sum upon CompletionHi Storm,Quotation looks reasonable. If you intend to use Solid Surface top check with you id what top he's using.Another is the payment terms. For mine is usually like this. Gives more assurance for houseowners.10% before commencement of project 20% upon commencement of wet works20% upon completion of wet works20% upon measurement of carpentry works20% upon completion of carpentry works10% 7days after completion of project or rectification works if anyCheers ,Jaskel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites