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#1 Maria

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 07:58 PM

Thinking of buying the Philips downlight (2 x 14 W) for my L box. Cut out size 106 mm x 106 mm. Is this size too big for HDB flat. Thanks.

    

#2 neubie

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (Maria @ Apr 3 2011, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thinking of buying the Philips downlight (2 x 14 W) for my L box. Cut out size 106 mm x 106 mm. Is this size too big for HDB flat. Thanks.


yes, for standard 12" L-box 2 x 14W is too big. a 1 x 14 downlight will be sufficient. I once made a mistake of ordering those 2 x 14W downlights and managed to change to single-bulb type and installed in my flat. rolleyes.gif


Edited by neubie, 03 April 2011 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2011 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE (neubie @ Apr 3 2011, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes, for standard 12" L-box 2 x 14W is too big. a 1 x 14 downlight will be sufficient. I once made a mistake of ordering those 2 x 14W downlights and managed to change to single-bulb type and installed in my flat. rolleyes.gif


Thanks. Will go for the Philips 1 X 14W.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 09:18 PM

QUOTE (Maria @ Apr 3 2011, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks. Will go for the Philips 1 X 14W.


dun take my word blindly. check with ur id or contractor regarding this.

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 09:49 PM

QUOTE (neubie @ Apr 3 2011, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dun take my word blindly. check with ur id or contractor regarding this.

Will definitely check before buying. Thanks.

#6 Soichiro

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 01:38 PM

These downlights should be very bright. I have the same one in my living room, its the smallest they have and works well enough.

My ceiling looks like this now with the downlights.


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Posted 04 April 2011 - 02:34 PM

Yes!! I am getting this for my new house too. Its one of the brightest available in the market. . I was quoted $33/set. How much did u guys paid for?

Was initially planning to get LED ones but was told by the lighting specialist that they are not bright enough to use a main light source. Will need to go with ceiling lights hence we find it not practical. I intend to put a ceiling fan in the middle like yours too.

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Mrs SCP @ Apr 4 2011, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes!! I am getting this for my new house too. Its one of the brightest available in the market. . I was quoted $33/set. How much did u guys paid for?

Was initially planning to get LED ones but was told by the lighting specialist that they are not bright enough to use a main light source. Will need to go with ceiling lights hence we find it not practical. I intend to put a ceiling fan in the middle like yours too.


Price should be around there bah. Mine also $30+. Considered the $15 ones, but can tell the quality difference, some misaligned also. Consider that this has no ballast, one less thing to change in the future too, and it switches on without flickering. Power consumption should be about half of the halogen downlights. And most importantly... doesn't emit much heat at all!

Note that if you want ceiling fan like I did... consider where you sofa will be and whether you want to blow direct or just a light side breeze for people sitting on the sofa. Mine... abit far from sofa I think. May put sofa nearer to TV lor.. experiment a bit.

Edited by Soichiro, 04 April 2011 - 04:07 PM.


#9 Maria

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 10:10 PM

Soichiro... thanks for the information.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 01:05 PM

Hi, about the philips downlight that is using E27 fitting, philips don't have those around 4000K colour temperature. Only warm white and daylight. Is there any other reliable E27 bulbs that has around 4000K colour temp "cool white" available in the market?

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (Soichiro @ Apr 4 2011, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Price should be around there bah. Mine also $30+. Considered the $15 ones, but can tell the quality difference, some misaligned also. Consider that this has no ballast, one less thing to change in the future too, and it switches on without flickering. Power consumption should be about half of the halogen downlights. And most importantly... doesn't emit much heat at all!

Note that if you want ceiling fan like I did... consider where you sofa will be and whether you want to blow direct or just a light side breeze for people sitting on the sofa. Mine... abit far from sofa I think. May put sofa nearer to TV lor.. experiment a bit.



Thanks, Soichiro!

I went to read your T blog and noted that your contractor have hidden ur ceiling fan wire in the wall rather than using a trunking or false ceiling. I checked with my contractor and she told me that it is not approved by HDB and will need to fix back in future if selling the house. But is it safe? Will the structure of the ceiling be affected? I really like the look of ur ceiling... So clean cut.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Mrs SCP @ Apr 5 2011, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, Soichiro!

I went to read your T blog and noted that your contractor have hidden ur ceiling fan wire in the wall rather than using a trunking or false ceiling. I checked with my contractor and she told me that it is not approved by HDB and will need to fix back in future if selling the house. But is it safe? Will the structure of the ceiling be affected? I really like the look of ur ceiling... So clean cut.


Well, it looks safe but should not quote me on that smile.gif

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 05:18 PM

We also bought it at S$33 last week. Indeed very bright but dun really like the wordings Philips on it sad.gif

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Posted 08 April 2011 - 02:20 PM

QUOTE (lynmin @ Apr 7 2011, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We also bought it at S$33 last week. Indeed very bright but dun really like the wordings Philips on it sad.gif


I thought so initially. But its up on the ceiling... hardly noticeable as u can see in the pic above. Anyway nobody would stare at the lights. smile.gif

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 10:13 PM

QUOTE (lynmin @ Apr 7 2011, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We also bought it at S$33 last week. Indeed very bright but dun really like the wordings Philips on it sad.gif


Can I check where did you buy your philips down light from? Thank you!

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 10:41 AM

QUOTE (frizzyball @ Apr 14 2011, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can I check where did you buy your philips down light from? Thank you!


lightings.com.sg is sole distributor. Other shops selling this also get it from them.

They have a few branches, can check their webbie for details

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 11:32 PM

i buy my downlights frm this guy in eunos called nicholas...friendly and gd service provided...though nt philips bt so i have use a few months no problem...charge me less than 430 for one PLC downlight...

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:34 AM

i buy my downlights frm this guy in eunos called nicholas...friendly and gd service provided...though nt philips bt so i have use a few months no problem...charge me less than 430 for one PLC downlight...




less than $430 for one PLC downlight ?

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 07:46 PM

Know one of their shops in Balestier road is gonna close for renovation, wondering any discount :unsure:

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 01:50 PM

<!--quoteo(post=629502:date=Apr 14 2011, 10:13 PM:name=frizzyball)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frizzyball @ Apr 14 2011, 10:13 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=629502"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Can I check where did you buy your philips down light from? Thank you!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

lightings.com.sg is sole distributor. Other shops selling this also get it from them.

They have a few branches, can check their webbie for details


Hi Soichiro,

I am thinking to install non ballast downlight (energy saving light) but heard that it blow off easily (within 6 months)due to heat, do you face any problem (bulb blow off easily) with Philips downlight?

#21 archenemy

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 03:58 PM

i recently bought some philips FBG305 downlights from a shop..RRP is $45 (even lightings.com.sg) but i got it for $43..

not much..but when you buy quite a few of it..it turns out to be a tidy sum of money..

PM me if you want to know the shop location..not sure if i can share it here..

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:30 PM

i recently bought some philips FBG305 downlights from a shop..RRP is $45 (even lightings.com.sg) but i got it for $43..

not much..but when you buy quite a few of it..it turns out to be a tidy sum of money..

PM me if you want to know the shop location..not sure if i can share it here..



Hi,

i'm interested, kindly PM to share the contact. Thanks! :)

#23 joemit7850

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:35 PM

i recently bought some philips FBG305 downlights from a shop..RRP is $45 (even lightings.com.sg) but i got it for $43..

not much..but when you buy quite a few of it..it turns out to be a tidy sum of money..

PM me if you want to know the shop location..not sure if i can share it here..

Why must buy philips brand?they are over price, you can get similar wattage at less than this price

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 10:36 PM

Why must buy philips brand?they are over price, you can get similar wattage at less than this price


well bro...i also did my fair share of legwork walking down jalan besar from 10am to 5pm i day...walking into nearly every lighting shop..looking at all their downlights section (cos it will form the bulk of my light purchases)...and what i saw was quite disappointing to say the least..

those cheaper downlights just didnt feel as good..the finishing..the quality...right down to the wires...plastic light holders..sharp edges on the glass...

granted that philips is not cheap..but i find that the build quality is good..

just like why people buy Louis Vuitton or Gucci handbags..it serves the same purpose..but it just looks & feels better...


find it weird that you used wattage as a comparison though...

peace.

#25 MingzhuAng

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 10:40 PM

Why must buy philips brand?they are over price, you can get similar wattage at less than this price


Thinking long term, they are more energy saving and less heat remittance. Normal downlight is cheap at buying, long term wise, not as cost saving as philips. Unless, you can find me one downlight that is as bright as philips, quality as good with QA, and as energy saving as that. Then i will consider that option.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:51 PM

Does anyone know where to get philips FBG304 downlights? no stocks at lightings .com .sg

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 05:57 PM

lightings dun keep stock, must order first.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:23 PM

I was advised by the sales staff at lightings. com.sg that one Philips FBG304 downlight (E27, 1xGenie 14W) is as bright as a 2x13W PLC downlight. Is this true?

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:19 AM

Hi,

i'm interested, kindly PM to share the contact. Thanks! :)

i'm interested pls Pm me..tks alot

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 08:59 AM

Actually the key point of this downlight is the fact that you just need to unscrew the 2 screws (refer to picture provided by TS) when changing bulbs.


That is an epic change already because you DO NOT need to use any other tools to pluck out the faceplate. the traditional downlights need to use something to "giao" the faceplate out, risk damaging your false ceiling. :bangwall: especially when u cannot control your force well.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 10:20 AM

hi thanks for such a useful tip! do you have another other lighting tips to share too? :)


i am planning on getting downlights too. saw the one TS mention....i think they have white faceplate instead of silver too. (yes lightings.com.sg)

I am not sure if there are any similar ones in the market....but the screws are definitely a smart concept. dunno why the other manufacturers never think of this in the first place :bangwall:


but then if u are planning on LED, then any type of downlight also can since you probably wun need to change bulb often.


me planning to use the philips easyscene bulbs...so these suit me quite fine i guess.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:44 AM

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yes, for standard 12" L-box 2 x 14W is too big. a 1 x 14 downlight will be sufficient. I once made a mistake of ordering those 2 x 14W downlights and managed to change to single-bulb type and installed in my flat. <img src="http://www.renotalk....>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

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Hi neubie,

Just checking with you, FBG 304 square cannot fix Philips myVision LED bulb. Is it true? Only FBG 302 round can.

Thanks

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:43 PM

Hi neubie,

Just checking with you, FBG 304 square cannot fix Philips myVision LED bulb. Is it true? Only FBG 302 round can.

Thanks



Hi, positive. Philips myVision LED bulb is only compatible with Philips FBG 302. I am getting it also but will give away the genie 14w inside. cos i only want the housing of FBG302.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:16 PM

Thanks for the info. I think i also stick to FBG302

#35 sgboi82

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:43 PM

Hi, positive. Philips myVision LED bulb is only compatible with Philips FBG 302. I am getting it also but will give away the genie 14w inside. cos i only want the housing of FBG302.


philips LED bulb should be compatible with all downlights as long as their holder is E27 right?

#36 mikecjw

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:34 PM

Hi sgboi82

What i know from the shop that opening of FBG304 is not big enough of the philips myvision bulb to reach E27 socket. I have not try it myself.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 07:19 PM

Anyone has good recommendations to purchase the Philips E27, Genie 14W bulb in good pricing? I am thinking of replacing all my existing Genie 14W after 2 years of usage. I intend to buy ard 25 units and wondering can get a good price with this quantity?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

Hi,

Just sharing. Will you like to consider replacing your downlights to LED downlights? you can visit www.ledazzled.com for more infomation on the prices.
A 10W LED downlight costs S$48 and comes with 3 years warranty.




   

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