MaCe

only reason I can think of - is mis-informed. I was intro by friends to do overlaying too. many contractors/id I spoke to(while shortlisting for reno) DOES not recommend overlaying. some even told me might as well dont touch it all - if really want to save cos no point spending thousands yet having the risk of tiles cracking and popping up 5 yrs down the road. another cost saving method - cement screeding - you might want to go find out. I drop the idea after my hdb officer told me what happenned to some houses.

ya precisely. danger or not depends on the human factor. Many whom i spoke to who prefer cylinder over piped gas is due the nonsense billing. piped gas or cylinders - cos it's still the same LPG unless one stays in Jurong area. ______________________________________________ from citygas's website - Availability of natural gas in Singapore Natural gas infrastructure is currently available in Tuas and Jurong areas. For more information, click here .

IMM.

nothing wrong lah. no worries.

tingshen, cannot link the map as a pic inside renotalk. renotalk will kena sue by them. post url link can liao - dont show the map here. http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel.../travel_site_1/ block 27 and block 30 at block 27, just beside kopitiam, look for a old uncle(desk at corner near door) at block 30, just beside walkway, look for a uncle(40s) wearing specs and tell him I WANNA SEE DOORBELLs, he will bring you to the back of the shop - thats where you can press all the doorbells until your finger numb also nobody will complain.

I didnt touch my common toilet also cos no point saving this or that by overlaying or watever end up still a half-sone toilet - since i cant afford the $3k.

care to read this piece of news? http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfriendly...,139546,00.html It's a MIRACLE we are all alive Family cooks, sleeps for two weeks in condo unit with leaking gas pipe FOR two weeks this family danced with danger and survived. By Ng Hui Hui 23 August 2007 FOR two weeks this family danced with danger and survived. Madam M Chen, 51, smelt gas but didn't know that it was coming from her unit. And all this while the family continued to cook. Madam Chen and her family had moved into their new condominium unit at Mirage Tower in Kim Seng Road just two weeks ago. But unknown to them, a concealed gas pipe was leaking. It turned out that their sub-contractor had accidentally drilled into it while renovating the place. Last Saturday, the smell got worse when they closed the windows and switched on the air-conditioner in the living room. Madam Chen, a housewife, told The New Paper: 'My children were uncomfortable. Their tuition teacher also complained about the smell.' Her children are aged 7 and 10. Thinking that it was the air-conditioner 'leaking some kind of gas', she contacted the technician. But he told her that it was not the case and advised her to contact Citigas - which supplies gas to her condo. The same day, a technician from Citigas visited her house and confirmed that a gas pipe in the kitchen was leaking. SAVED BY GOOD VENTILATION Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG), can be ignited if there's a certain percentage of it in the air. LPG, which can build up very rapidly in poorly ventilated areas, can cause death if one inhales too much of it. Pointing to the window beneath the false ceiling where the gas pipe was punctured, she said: 'Thank goodness the ventilation here is very good. We always leave the window open in the day and would close it only at night.' Citigas has since cut off the gas supply to her unit. Madam Chen said she had installed the false ceiling to conceal the water pipes. She was still upset when The New Paper visited her yesterday. She said it was a miracle that nothing had happened despite the fact that they had been cooking all the while. She contacted her contractor from ID.com the same day Citigas told her about the punctured pipe. The contractor was recommended by her property agent and the renovations had cost her about $50,000. When contacted, manager of ID.com Lynn Liew said her company had sub-contracted the work to Wen Yi Plastering Decor. Ms Liew also said that it was the first time she was working with this sub-contractor. Mr Eric Tan, 36, owner of Wen Yi Plastering Decor, said he had visited Madam Chen's unit with his worker last Monday to assess the damage. He said the pipe was concealed behind a wall and that before the renovations were carried out, they were not told of the gas pipe there. He said he was unsure if his workers had done any checks as he was not around to supervise. 'It is standard procedure that when we do any renovation work, the main switch to the gas would be turned off. That is why we did not detect any leak during the renovation,' he said. The pipe was punctured when his workers drilled holes in the wall to secure metal mounts that support the false ceiling. 'We were just unlucky to drill into the pipe,' he said. Madam Chen said she had asked Citigas to repair the pipe tomorrow. Mr Tan said he would bear the cost of the repair. He said he will also fix and repaint the ceiling for her at no extra cost.

what you think leh? ask any audiophile why they die die must spend thousands on soundproofing their soundroom. ans : when sound wave hits a wall and bounce - music/sound becomes DISTORTED! what you are listening to is NOISE. this is why such products 's main targetted consumers are the geeks, not audiophiles. All these huge companies knows their market, no way can they sell it to audiophiles, thats why such a "new tech" is sold so cheap. It's for those who wants something that LOOKS special so they can brag to their guests during house warming.

aiya who not budget constraint? hdb permit doesnt cost a cent. waterproofing is included and warranty for 5 yrs. overlaying is machiam half the job done yet it still cost thousands. if you really wanna save, go for epoxy spraying, roughly 1k for 1 toilet, it's also acts as a additonal layer of waterproofing. general consensus for toilets - either hack+redo or dont touch it all. I did nothing for my common toilet.

TKK

nothing about dangerous or gas leak...about the irregularity in billing. anyway my family used to gas cylinder for the last 30 over years...so not much of a hassle to me.

alexandra village - that hawkercentre near queensway ikea. there is old rattan furniture shop there among the shophouses - they were there for donkey years liao. when you are there, can go hongliang(electricals).

huh? dont understand ... you mean yours is this kind of gate?

most are closed on sundays - saturday half day. apart from hoekee, you can try GENOVA - they japan brand OYAMA - quality quite good. i mean - any brand or no brand out there is better than ikea. some of the shops in jalan berseh, they can tell 18/10 or even 18/20 but the product itself doesnt state that.

cheapest quote i have found is $2800.00, hack and re-tile. actually the toiletbowls($130)+basin($30)+watertap($10) all cheap cheap. for the upgrading - many pple told me WAIT LONG LONG cos ours is mansionette(executive). especially if your estate already done the MUP.

where elese would i recommend? hehe sungei road - got my OLD version friedland doorbell that rings like a old telephone - just rinnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. many doorbells there, can press and try until you happy. block 30

applefreak dont give anybody FACE - go buy buy buy! shop till you drop!!

or just type philips sound bar reviews in google - or in HT / audiophile forums and see how many positive reviews you can get. even yamaha has a hard time trying to convince the old school HT.

me using LPG cylinder - cos heard too many horror stories of pipe gas(the $$$)

super tio kor jurongwest kid.

flygal help me buy this cat http://www.mentalfunk.com/movies/fatcat.html

can see the tiles or empty surface?

never heard b4 - unless the door slides and hide behind your headboard(bed).

that means already $2k liao - might as well hack+redo. he should have told what range to look for - usually $2.50 psf but you need to ask him.

hdb dont do that lah - hope long long.