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It's nice to know that you can get it at a steep discount. However I believe the cost of the system should not even be 60% of the selling price after shipment to Singapore. Recently i got to know a person who used to do hylux. The e filters they getodeon factory is a mere fraction of the selling price they were selling the systems here. Thus I think it's still not really direct but merely a higher discount and cutting out the agent here. However this system is still an alkaline water wannabe whose main role is the filter rather than to provide Health benefits. A check with the company show they are dealing with all kinds of water systems ( which is why it is based in Malaysia), so I dun think they are focused on health but rather to have a complete water solution for customers. Just my personal opinion

GenDan, Thank you again for your advertisment Evopure. For the bebefits of those who did not managed to read what i written in my earlier post below will be it. To be honest here, we should not just be talking about alkaline water. It so common to hear companies that are offering alkaline water. This not only complicates matters as alkaline water is dervied from many ways but not understood by many. Let me help break it down for interested people who wants to know more. 1) Alkaline water can be made using chemicals. Think NaOH (sodium hydroxide aka caustic soda) this will raise the pH of any water up to the max pH of 14. However no one in the right frame of mind will drink this alkaline beverage from such chemical concotion. 2) Alkaline water can be alkalized through minerals. However there is limitations to this. Think of this as trying to dissolve sugar in a cup of tea... there is a saturation pt.. dissolving minerals behave the same.. as such high pH is almost impossible. Futhermore mineral derived from this is compound based and not ions. thus it is not very beneficial as the body requires ions to function not compounds. Stones which form in the body could be due to high mineral compound consumption. 3) Alkaline water can be derived from ionization method where mineral compounds are broken apart.. thus one 1 side u have high alkaline water with high concentration of mineral IONS while on the other high acidic water with lots of acidic ions. As the body requires ions to function. giving it ions will help ones body greatly. As the acidic mineral ions are removed from the body, there is no chance stones can form in the body. Another aspect other than alkaline water is antioxidants. We all know antioxidants are extremely important to prevent premature aging... mutant cell etc.... that why alot of people are taking antioxidants supplements. Therefore the more antioxidants... the merrier. (3) has lots of this ability as it uses electricity (2) has a tiny bit of it due to bio stones etc... but to change the cartridges.. it cost an arm and leg eventually. I subscribe to (3) and the recurring cost is S$100+ a year only. Do consider carefully on all fronts the requirements of the family like i have and not get caught up with marketing advertisments. Read the science inside them to understand more before buying anything. cheers to babygal83, There are many systems out there that do not need an extra tap. Do look around the thread to find out some of the more reputable companies mentioned and make an informed choice. Now that I know the price of Evopure... I will definately recommend hyflux as the better of the 2 given the list by payton in the earlier post. The filters costing of evopure eventhough is S$400 now is actually S$500 in actual retail price. This is what I have been telling people, the use of biostones, minerals etc. to achieve alkalinity, miroclusters and antioxidants is not only EXTREMELY expensive, but the ability is limited or at later part of the filter life is NEGLIGABLE. This is not what sales people will tell you when you 1st buy it. The fact is customers do not test the quality of their water from their machines year in year out is as much as a concern as those who are trying to over sell them a system as well. time to go for my morning exercise. Cheers!

That is spot on frederica. Just ask yourselves why our Singapore government does not send RO (new water) directly to your homes? The answer is very clear.... Just to add... Deionized water/ RO water / distilled water etc were NEVER created for human consumption in the 1st place. It was created in mind of the industry its was need to be in. Overtime, to increase profits... companies started to market it to the largest industry.. OUR HOMES..... The fact that some unscruplous sales people going around housing estates claiming that singaporeans water are contaminated and to prove the point add a chemical solution to normal PUB water and it turns dirty while adding to their water, it still is clear. To explain, the chemical used is to detect mineral and thus the "dirt" becomes visible while RO / Distilled water do not have minerals and thus the "dirt" is not visible. I hope anyone who see this can explain to friends and relatives who have experience such schemes...

Hi Fredica, To be honest, the term micro clusters are vaguely used and misrepresented by people selling water filters. There is a difference between small clusters and micro clusters. An example of such misrepresentation would be like this: anything that is alkaline is above the pH value of 7 ( the pH range is from 1 (acid) and 14 (alkaline) and neutral is 7) most filter companies will tell customers that their water is alkaline. But if u ask them how alkaline is alkaline? U might get a very disappointed answer... 7.5? 8? 8.5? 9? In the alkaline scale of 7.1 - 14 those numbers are extremely low. But u can't say they are outright lying... Its marketing afterall. Coming to water clusters is the same. hertz (frequency) in which water is tested to determine the size should be asked. Again u might get a disappointing answer in the form of a blur look or an unintelligent answer. The fact is this, filters are created to filter nothing more n nothing less is expected of it. However because of the high quality water in Singapore, filter companies have to reinvent themselves to keep their market share. As consumers look for better quality (functional) water, filter companies used the same advantages of functional systems to sell their own product. The sales person lack of knowledge proves that they do not need to know the finer details as the info is on the box so it had them. How it got there.... Don't know (don't care?) Coming to Hyflux. I must admit that they are a very good Singapore company. However consumer products stand at 1% of their interest. What is majority will get their attention, what is minority is considered unwanted. It just a branding exercise to improve public awareness. Bottom line is this if one is looking for filters, the pls go and find one that is reliable and affordable. If one is looking for a functional system the same thing applies. Filters cannot provide health benefits without functional water technology (ionization or magnetic resonance) neither functional water system can provide filtration without filters. On the vegetables aspect, if we can consume 4 servings of fruits n vegs for every serving of meat (HPB) recommendation. Then we are in the 1% of the world population. This 1% belongs to the gym.. For every large bowl of green vegs they have some strips of white chicken. On a side note water is important. Be it functional or tap water, we need 2-3L a day to hydrate but also detox. If the quantity of water we drink is lesser, not only r we dehydrated we are also storing toxins in our systems. Overtime this will lead to diseases. A prominent iranian doctor wrote in a book. Titled we are not sick but thirsty! How true how true....

Hi Linggie, Alkaline ionized water technology has been established since the 1965! After the MOH in japan endorsed it as a medical technology n as a medical device. It's not been well established in Singapore until the last few years. Today we are being bombarded by everything n anything claiming to be produce alkaline water. (That was my purpose to help readers to have a better understanding on alkaline water As our society here in Singapore starts to be aware of such functional technology available to us, we can make a better and well informed choice. However reading up is essential to avoid getting what you did not want in the first place. Hope it helps

Hi payton Always look at the cost of the system + the recurring cost to buy filters + possible servicing cost as well. All this will factor in when u buy a filter system. For filtration system.. it should not cost very expenive but has the maximum beneifts... afterall we are S'poreans right? My evaluation is based on my personal preference as if the bottom 5 Co. are the only ones in the world. 1) 3M Water Purification System - AP Easy Complete (http://solutions.3m.com.sg/wps/portal/3M/en_SG/WPS/main/) Uses 0.5M filteration system 2) Hyflux Ultra Filter HF1P (http://www.hyfluxconsumer.com/product/view/4) uses 0.01M 3) SwissPro SMART (http://www.swisspro.sg/water-solutions/res.../swisspro-smart) 0.2M 4) EvoPure Residential PW12 (http://evopuresingapore.com/) 0.01M 5) UltraPure Water system (http://www.ultrapure.com.sg/DW-KwikChange.html) 0.1 - 0.3M 6) SoPure Water Filters (http://waterfilter.com.sg/index.php?option...=7&Itemid=2) looks like ceramic which would be 0.2M If u really ask me between these 5. I would recommend u to take hyflux or evopure. But pls compare the cost of the system, filters, warranty etc. Do not be taken in by salesmanship as in "u only need 1 filter per year" but more like how much water are u using from this system. Usually consummers use between 12 - 20L per day for drinking and cooking. and if that is the case u might need more than 1 per year = cost goes up. If the system cannot tell you when to change the filter... its going to be difficult as using a filter too long will breed bacteria which would contaminte your water by dumping its waste into your cup of water. Think of it as drinking bateria "poo" eww That is the reason why i did not choose a filter system alone but an water ionizer as it has a filter 0.01M and with ionization technology i get alot more bang for my buck.. including removing bacteria acidic waste. But thats just me. Hope it helps!

To be honest here, we should not just be talking about alkaline water. It so common to hear companies that are offering alkaline water. This not only complicates matters as alkaline water is dervied from many ways but not understood by many. Let me help break it down for interested people who wants to know more. 1) Alkaline water can be made using chemicals. Think NaOH (sodium hydroxide aka caustic soda) this will raise the pH of any water up to the max pH of 14. However no one in the right frame of mind will drink this alkaline beverage from such chemical concotion. 2) Alkaline water can be alkalized through minerals. However there is limitations to this. Think of this as trying to dissolve sugar in a cup of tea... there is a saturation pt.. dissolving minerals behave the same.. as such high pH is almost impossible. Futhermore mineral derived from this is compound based and not ions. thus it is not very beneficial as the body requires ions to function not compounds. 3) Alkaline water can be derived from ionization method where mineral compounds are broken apart.. thus one 1 side u have high alkaline water with high concentration of mineral IONS while on the other high acidic water with lots of acidic ions. As the body requires ions to function. giving it ions will help ones body greatly. Another aspect other than alkaline water is antioxidants. We all know antioxidants are extremely important to prevent premature aging... mutant cell etc.... that why alot of people are taking antioxidants supplements. Therefore the more antioxidants... the merrier. (3) has lots of this ability as it uses electricity (2) has a tiny bit of it due to bio stones etc... but to change the cartridges.. it cost an arm and leg eventually. I subscribe to (3) Do consider carefully on all fronts the requirements of the family like i have and not get caught up with marketing advertisments. Read the science inside them to understand more before buying anything. cheers

I got my sofa from them. The price is very reasonable if you compare it to the original design of a famous brand. Overall I am very sastified.

LOL WIW with doors is just a waredrobe.... Zzzzzz Before We had kids, we thought about wiw.... so nice, morden etc... but with kids.... its a sure a no no. I have my girl going to my waredrobe and take pieces of cloths out 1 by 1 !!!! so we can sit together to fold them again... its a game to her... Zzzzz So thank goodness I did not have 1.. haha

Hi all, Just for information, I had an email asking the difference between MRET and water ionizers. I decided to post it here so that everyone can benefit for the information. MRET By Honeycomb ( located in Novena beside the food court) Similarity: Basically its uses magnets to split the water clusters into smaller (micro) level. This helps in the hydration, adsorbtion of nutrients and detoxification for the body. Differences: It can be used on all kinds of fluids from juices, wines & oils. No Antioxidants and high alkalinity (both which are important) Alkaline Water Ionizers By a few companies (I use jupiter from KEMP Trading because of their track record) Similarity: Basically uses electricity to break down large water cluster into micro cluster (similar to MRET) Differences: Water ionizers are used to ionized ONLY water. Water ionizers have benefits such as Antioxidants and Alkalinity which the MRET does not have. Results: It really depends on what do you actually want. Both technologies have their pro and cons, however they can be supplemented to become equal. Pricewise, ionizers tend to be slightly cheaper (depending on which model) Generally if my ionizer cannot MRET juices or oils, I tend to buy more healtier oils and have fresh fruits. Similarly if the customer lack antioxidants and alkalinity, they have to purchase supplements and consume more alkaline food groups. I hope the above helps! Cheers I hope the above helps!

WIW is totally unpractical to the standard singaporean. There are alot of reasons why.. 1) Without door, cloths collects dust easily 2) Singapore is a humid country so the cloths can become damp due to weather. 3) Creepy crawlers have a higher chance to hide among the cloths.

Its true that some buck the trend, but I dont think we like to take that risk on our children right?

Hi Wakarimasen, Yes and you can Self install. Its fairly simple.

I got my lights from lights sg in Balistier. Super cheap but lights tend to blow quite fast as well.

The Delphi Price is S$2888 I think. The most expensive and stylish system I have seen but.... NO BUDGET!! I was smitten by the Mirage speakers when I went into the sound studio in Harvey Norman. The Onkyo I waited for a while to get the THX approved system...

Look for anything that has a fine filter with materials to remove chemicals. I prefer a 0.01M filter from hyflux if I ever needed a filter system. But since I have a 0.01M filter inside a water ionizer, it provides the filtration protection as well as alkaline ionized water that my family needs. Hope it helps! Cheers!

Dear MsPrTan, Is surprising to hear about your situation. Its possible that when you did the renovation the pipings are changed as well. This will lead to fine particles to be slowly washed out from the tap. I got the same experience from my new home as well. There is no need to splurge on such an expensive filter system if the idea is to get filtered water. There are many with more affordable pricing. But because it is a MLM co, there is money to be made if you are an agent for them. Cheers

Hi benlauhh, Happy new year! The mavello is holding up. Actually my parents that used the 1st Mavello is still functioning, bought at 2001 after my mom consulted me as the "leading science person in the home", my own Mavello bought in 2005 which helped my wife's gastric problems is holding up as well (now in my in-laws place). My own jupiter system is ok as well Delphi is truly an amazing undersink system with a looker at the top. However there is a price to be paid for it S$2888 At my current place, where countertop space is a luxury... it might be applicable but.... I blew my budget.... so had to settle for a lesser system till I get enough dough Enough said about the Mavello system.... the question we should ask ourselves is what kind of water would you like to have... If its just clean filter water, then there are tonns out there that will not need to bust a GIANT hole in our wallets. If I was looking for a water filter, I would go for the anything that has 0.01M filters. Reason is simple, the smaller the sizing the finer the filtration. Virtually all bacteria and some viruses are not able to get through that kind of filter size. Simple filters need not be 1k and above, in fact prices should be sub $500 of lesser coupled with NSF cert. btw I decided on the mirage speakers and onkyo 608 THX certified amp. Its pure joy to hearing it.

If its just filtration, then hyflux seems a good proposition. But if you are looking for functional water then see water ionziers. The science is proof that it works. cheers!

You might want to have a look at this thread for more information. Water purification Cheers

Thanks FTorres for the highlighting the point. Ignoring the "extra" comments, there are somethings to add water ionizers are used clinically in Japan and Korea. I guess the cost of a system would be the materials you use to produce it. So if its of high quality materials and precious metal used, cost should be higher. Hard to find what is used, but I guess if the brand thats around long and is trusted by many, then I guess it should be at least better in quality cheers!

Dear Samuel, Its interesting that u dismissed the endorsement so readily n mentioned that korea is a small country. I am even more perplexed by you mentioning "we" getting sanitation licence.... are you selling the product? Maybe to let you know more about the endorsement of KFDA, the licence to product water ionizers in Korea and Japan is under medical directive. In other words they are classified under pharmaceuticals production standards, GMP medical certs are required as well. Under KFDA endorsement, water ionizers makers must make machines based on the specifications of clinical trials done there, thus they are tightly restricted to what and how they can produce water ionizers. I do not think this is the case for Chinese manufacturers. If you are a user or "beneficiary" as the translation from chinese is, its good that you are able to accept chinese goods, cos even in my generation, we are still convinced that chinese products are far from being acceptable. Yes we get almost all our stuff from China, no that does not mean we accepted them. Maybe in the near future... but definitely not now. btw diamond is NOT a water ionizer.

I samuel, Interesting u said jupiter cost beyond 2k... I got mine for mid 1k... Acutally there are many models to choose from...Enagic is correct as it cost 6k here if I am not wrong. The issue is that if u want to buy a water ionizer.. And its for HEALTH reason, won't it be a right to get it from the right people? If I am not jupiter is produced in korea which is endored there by the KFDA as a medical device. I don't think china endorses that. My main concern is yes the price is CHEAP but do customer trust Chinese product especially for health reasons? I will never compromise my family health... Uinless they buck up from all the health scare....

Hi blues, Sorry for the delay..... Its been a while since I last came in... been bz with lots of work... Do read the post as mentioned and if need be, do post direct questions, I'll try to answer...

I have been monitoring the thread... Its really a concern on bulk as the providers will try ways and means to cut corners... I would rather buy a slightly higher price aircon with peace of mind on the workmanship (which is the most impt) compared to the compressor or coils. End of the day, my aircon guy which is recommended by my ID who swears by his workmanship was the best I got. The additional plus point was that the price was very close to GC except that every upgrade was already thrown in.