thanks for showing me the gate ... i can't use it .. as donut is very strong boy .. he can move my playpen from one place to the other ... even moved a heavy playpen at compassvale's house. need to get hardy n strong gate and install at the door way ... found a few but little oreo can squeeze thru ... poor ember .. sure to miss her long fur ... being botak is shiok during hot weather but when it rains , better let her wear some dog clothes or your tee for warmth ... just fetch oreo home from jalan kayu and did my shopping with him at compasspoint .. me n him both feeling very upset ... he whine till he tears ... in great pain after being neuter ... he unable to lay down .. been walking about ... simply hate his collar ... unable to reach his food .. have to handfeed him ... heartpain leh ... that silly old donut luff nonstop ... having this big watermelon smile since he saw what happened to oreo ... !! never see donut this happy for ages wor , since oreo arrived on 28 Nov'07. no mood to cook liao maybe when you come over on 13th, oreo may still be flower dog ... coz he has to wear his collar for 2weeks and unable to bathe ... i have no choice but to lock him up in the cage .. as donut wants to touch oreo's wound. poor oreo .. his wound still bleeding badly ... heartpain ar ... me now super regretful of my decision leh ... tot of having to go thru donut's turn making me worse than ever ... just now earlier, vet gave me a lame joke ... i told him that oreo is being very notti, always pee n poo anyhow , otherwise he is healthy ... vet replied the problem caused by oreo's another head rule his brain and went kuku i think all boys the same ar ... donut well behaves only infront of others and begs to play with him ... while oreo will be cheeky by jumping onto you, asking you to carry him or "dao" , he would ignore u and do his dogwalk infront of you to get your attention. can't wait to see baileys ... donut can play with him ... have to monitor oreo 1st and see if he can recover in time. same with oreo wor .. he also would give me that oops i did it again look ... i think chrissy is used to pee anywhere she likes le ... does she always at the same spot or simply anyhow?? donut uses his pee pan quite well , i have to clean up his pan in time for his poo , if not, he would do his poo art work beside the pan and if he poo too much .. he would sometimes eat them back