Your comments are not nasty, just some of them are incorrect only. Maybe because u are just a house owner so some of the things or how its work you had not come across to. If providing the correct information, its will help the rest, but if to provide misleading information, this may cause the initial trust that the house owner and the ID/contractor built up to become suspicious and many unwanted doubts. Don't be offended on my comment on yours.
Just to check if the following quote is ok for my 5rm Resale (121sqm).
Demolition Works
Supply labour to hack off existing ceramic floor tiles for living, dining, balcony and 4 bedrooms ($1,460)
Supply labour to remove existing copper poping and wiring for whole house ($200)
Supply labour to remove existing kitchen cabinet and wall hung cabinet at kitchen ($350)
Supply labour to hack off existing flooring and wall tiles for kitchen ($650)
Supply labour to hack off existing wall tiles for main balcony ($280)
Supply labour to hack off existing flooring and wall tile for master toilet ($450)
Supply labour to hack off existing flooring and wall tile for common toilet ($450)
Supply labour to hack off existing concrete sin and stove support ($80)
Supply labour to remove WC and accessories at master bath ($40)
Supply labour to remove WC and accessories at common bath ($40)
Since going to hack both toilet, why your contractor still charging you for removing the accessories?
It can be charged at and can also not be charged at. This depend on the individual ID/contractor. WC, basin, accessories are basically manual dismantle, not like wall or floor tiles that they use a hacking tools to hack. It need to dismantle the water piping and with so many t-blog ard here, did we come across the WC in 1 pc(maybe the base is damaged) or the WC is in many broken pc?
Subtotal : $4,000
Masonry Works
Supply labour and material to construct a path of wall using 63mm hollow block for 1 bedroom ($850)
Supply labour and material to lay (600x600)mm Homogenous flooring for living, dining, balcony, 4 bedrooms with skirting ($6,800)
Supply labour and material to lay Ceramic wall tiles for main balcony ($950)
Supply labour and material to lay Homogenous flooring at kitchen ($850)
Supply labour and material to lay Ceramic wall tiles at a path of parapet height wall for both side ($550)
Supply labour and material to lay Ceramic wall tiles at kitchen ($1,850)
Supply labour and material to lay Homogenous flooring for master toilet ($550)
Supply labour and material to lay Ceramic wall tiles for master toilet ($1,200)
Supply labour and material to lay Homogenous flooring for common toilet ($550)
Supply labour and material to lay Ceramic wall tiles for common toilet ($1,100)
Make sure it's listed down the price of tiles availble. $3.50 psf??
Apply waterproofing membrane for master and common bath and kitchen ($450)
Supply labour and material to construct a path of wall parapet height using 63mm hollow block at sink area ($380)
Supply labour and material to install 1no rubbish chute cover ($180)
Supply labour and material to construct 50mm height L-shape kistchen cabinet base ($200)
Supply labour and material to construct 50mm washing machine base ($80)
Supply labour and material to contruct 50mm fridge base ($100)
Why is there $20 difference..most contractors quote the same pricing for both, usually $80 bucks..However, i go away with the construction of the 2 motar kerbs, as it's no longer practical for such kerbs.
Fridge is bigger than washing machine, so there is different. If to put it at the same price, will the house owner ask why the washing machine base is smaller and u charge it as the same price for the fridge? Isn't this very tricky?
Supply labour and material to construct 4 nos of wooden door frame ($480)
Subtotal : $17,140
Plumbing Works
Supply and install standard S/S piping for the whole house ($750)
Supply and install inlet/outlet for sink and washing machine ($100)
Supply and install hot and cold piping work for common and master toilet shower area ($120)
Supply labour to install 1 sink, 2 toilet bowls, basin, mixer taps, water heater and toilet accessories ($650)
Make sure they list down what are the accessories that they will help you to install.
How many toilet accessories can there be, mirror, toilet paper holder, bidet spray, toilet hooks, etc...u supply them the items, they install them and is as simply as that.
Subtotal : $1,620
Doors, Aluminium and Glass Work
Supply and install aluminium bi-fold door for common toilet ($180)
Supply and install aluminium casement and sliding window in (NA colour) for whole house ($2,850)
Supply and install aluminium grilles (NA colour) for whole house ($1,100)
Supply and install 1 no aluminium sliding foor c/w tempered glass at kitchen entrance ($780)
Supply and install 5 nos designer wooden door ($1,420)
What designer door? Who's the designer? The cost of a 'Natuk' door costs around $200. Ask your contractor which country and who is the designer for the door?
I think what the contractor mean is designed wooden door which is veneer door. I think u also referring for a Nyatoh door. Yes, it cost $200, u going to self-collect, install and vanish/paint yourself?
Supply and install 10mm thick tempered glass fixed panel at master toilet ($280)
Supply and install 10mm thick tempered glass swing door at master toilet shower area ($330)
Supply and install 10mm thick tempered glass between cabinet area ($1,250)
Supply and install 10mm thick tempered frosted glass swing door at master toilet entrance ($380)
Make sure the dimension of the glass is listed down. However, i think it's a little bit expensive? Ask if they can show you demostration of 'Tempered' glass?
Some are very standard items, eg. if the entrance of the doorway is H7ft x L3ft, don't think anyone will do H6.5ft x L2.5ft right? Some based on floor plan and didn't take actual dimension or some take measurement but all these are not totally necessary if not it will be like at the house for 4hrs just to take the whole house measurement which a lot of the house owners do not have the keys of the unit or they just arrange with the seller for the convenient. And some asked 2 or more ID/contractor to take the measurement on that day itself so a lot of things need to do it fast fast.
Also like to ask, how to show demonstration of 'Tempered' glass?I'm really curious about it.
Re-vanished existing wooden main door ($180)
What they use to re-vanish? Gold flakes? Super expensive lor...
Maybe because there are a lot scratches need to sand off, but maybe only.
Subtotal : $8,750
Plastering / False Ceiling works
Supply labour and material to construct L-box for living and dining area ($950)
Give dimension. I don't think it's this expensive. My contractor can give me L box for free, and yours cost almost 1k??
Yes, your contractor can give u for free but does it mean that there are other items he/she is charging u more?
Supply labour and material to construct false ceiling for main entrance ($280)
Supply labour and material to construct false ceiling C/W center panel for master bedroom ($780)
Supply labour and material to construct false ceiling for outside store room ($150)
Supply labour and material to construct false ceiling for master toilet ($230)
Supply labour and material to box up master toilet drainage pipe ($180)
I suggest not to plaster up the pipes...cos if next time got leakage, you can't see and it will spoil your plaster also.
I believe this is very individual, some really don't like to see piping and they willing to take the risk.
Supply labour and material to plaster whole house ($2,200)
Make sure they show you the 'water' level at every single corner. Any place not level, immediately ask them to level.
Plastering only mean making the walls more smooth but doesn't mean to make it level, pls don't be mistaken. If anyone able to plaster the walls smooth, straight and level, pls let me know, cos I will sure engage him. Human are doing the plastering, not machine. If really want it to be level, I don't think it will be that cost already, much higher than that.
Supply labour and material to construct parapet height wall at bedroom 3 ($350)
Subtotal : $5,120
Carpentry Works
Design and fabricate L1050mm full height shoe rack near entrance in laminate finishing C/W swing door ($950)
Provide dimension, number of shleves, types of laminates available to choose from.
Design and fabricate L-Shaped post system full height walk-in wardrobe in PVC laminate finishing include
internal shelving and drawers for master bedroom ($1,850)
Provide dimension, type of post system used, brand etc..Plus the different layout of your wiw. Remember, the brand very impt.
Design and fabricate L37ft top and bottom built-in kitchen cabinet in laminate finishing c/w swing door and frosted glass panel ($4,280)
All your requirement for drawer size, opening direction etc must all be listed down. Solid top not included?
Design and fabricate 1 no wooden sliding door C/W mirror in front at walk-in wardrobe entrance ($760)
My wardrobe mirror only costs $80. Shouldn't the door for your wiw comes together with the 2nd item in carpentary? Already charge you close to 2k, now asking another $700 ++
Come on, it already is WIW, so this mirror door is at another location rather than with the wardrobe itself so is another cost. And btw, your contractor charge $80 for your wardrobe mirror, isn't this suppose to be free?
Design and fabricate L2300mm full height wooden partition wall **** area ($850)
Design and fabricate 1 no wall hung basin cabinet C/W mirror and solid surface top ($880)
You not buying those off-shelf wall hung basin? Ask for type of solid surface top used.
Supply and install anti slam accessories for kitchen cabinet for low portion only ($320)
Wah he really carrot you. 1 Blum anti slam device only costs $6 if you purchase directly from them. somemore he quote only lower cabinet? How about your other drawers in shoe cabinet, wardrobe etc?
Errr....which country u buy the Blum anti slam device from...$6? 1 cabinet door need 2 Blum hinges + 1 Blumotion( which is the soft close device, so total cost ard $10 include GST. If u can get it at $6 for the set, can u get them for the forumers if they ask, cos it really cheap. If your contractor charge u $6 for just the device only, then u r the one being carrot lor
Subtotal : $9,890
Painting Works
Whole unit painting including pipes ICI/Nippon (5 colours) ($1,460)
5 colours got include white? Make sure it's written down the type of paint that can be used, eg 'wash n wear'.
Got include painting of door frame, grill gate, pipings in toilet??
Ya, better list down the type of paint used. As for the door frame, piping, etc...some do charge, some do included. If asking Nippon to paint, they charge individual items.
Subtotal : $1,460
Miscellaneous
Chemical wash for whole house ($280)
Make sure you are present to witness the wash.
If I was u, I rather not to be, cos the smell really can't take it.
General haulage and disposal of debris for the premise ($650)
Crazy, HDB haulage only $200.It was mention somewhwere in the forum on this item. Make sure they throw everything.
HDB don't do haulage
Supply labour and materials to install solid surface top for kitchen cabinet (S1,550)
Break down the cost psf. Solid top or granite? My granite kitchen top costs $90 psf with install
Maybe u can list also your country of granite, thickness, any front profile and backsplash, etc...
Supply labour and material to install wrought iron gate ($380)
Make sure you can choose design and colour...I got mine for free from my contractor.
$380 for a wrought iron gate, most likely is not galvanize. Maybe can ask for a galvanize gate, it cost more but it won't rust as fast as a normal wrought iron gate.
Rewiring works and lighting installation for whole house ($2,850)
Make sure it's listed down the number of powerpoints, light switch, power box, aircon transformer that is provided in the package. Make sure they change the wiring and the housing as well. You have a say in where and how the re-wiring will be allocated.
Every house owner have a say in where and how the rewiring will be allocated.
Seal up store room rolver with plaster board ($80)
Subtotal : $5,790
Grand Total : $53,770 ohmy.gif
Comment are welcome.....
My comments are that the price are reasonable and if you click with the ID/contractor and he/she is trustworthy, maybe u can consider using him/her. Paying a bit more doesn't mean that the contractor/ID is out to 'carrot' u, cos, services provided, workmanship, quality of work, design, etc...all this cant really be able to compare. There always a saying "Cheap doesn't mean good and good don't come cheap" but of course some may came across the opposite of that saying and that's why we have this forum here to help one another.
Happy renovating.