Peacesom 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 Dear All, This looks like a great forum with alot of experience and good advice from fellow dwellers! I would like to seek your words of wisdom, hope you guys can offer a tip or two! We just bought a resale EA HDB Flat in Pasir ris. We loved it due to the high ceiling in the living room and have crazy ideas to build a loft in it. Does anyone have any experience in this area? Does HDB allow... ? Any pictures you can share? Looking forward to your reply! Cheers Peacesom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunBun 5 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 Can post pics of your floorplan & your new home in its current state so we can see if we're able to give ideals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skywolf 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 Oh wow! High enuff for a loft? If HDB allows, and expenses permit, i'd do it. Hw abt posting a pic of your living rm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LittleDevil 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 Probably will need to apply permit due to the extra loading... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielray 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2008 i'm pretty sure HDB will NOT approve yr appln but well, no harm trying i had the same idea whn i almost wanted to buy the top level of a 4-storey walk-in hdb flat wif very high ceiling but was talked out of it by my frens as they assure me Mr HDB will never approve it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peacesom 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2008 Can post pics of your floorplan & your new home in its current state so we can see if we're able to give ideals? Hihi, how do I add an image to this to show you? Tried to insert image but it keeps asking for a URL? Please advise. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zirhk3355 1 Report post Posted August 17, 2008 Hihi, how do I add an image to this to show you? Tried to insert image but it keeps asking for a URL? Please advise. Thanks! Ya you are supposed to upload the pic to a free webserver like imageshack, then post the URL. Renotalk does not have enough space for members to upload pictures, unfortunately... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunBun 5 Report post Posted August 17, 2008 Peacesom, like Zirhk3355 mentiioned, you need to use image uploading sites such as imageshack, picoodle & etc. You can try using www.imageshack.us and you can upload the pic there. When imageshack shows a list of urls for the pict you upload, you copy the url for websites/forums & paste the link in your post. Hope this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peacesom 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2008 Peacesom, like Zirhk3355 mentiioned, you need to use image uploading sites such as imageshack, picoodle & etc. You can try using www.imageshack.us and you can upload the pic there. When imageshack shows a list of urls for the pict you upload, you copy the url for websites/forums & paste the link in your post. Hope this helps. Thanks alot for the advice guys! I hope this turns out ok, from photobucket: My floor Plan = EA HDB Flat, 144sq m, approx 1550 sq ft http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/EAHDBF.jpg <a href="http://s534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/?action=view¤t=EAHDBF.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/EAHDBF.jpg" border="0" alt="EA HBD Flat Floor Plan"></a> Thanks alot for the advice guys! I hope this turns out ok, from photobucket: My floor Plan = EA HDB Flat, 144sq m, approx 1550 sq ft http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/EAHDBF.jpg <a href="http://s534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/?action=view¤t=EAHDBF.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/EAHDBF.jpg" border="0" alt="EA HBD Flat Floor Plan"></a> Trying again to see if the image shows up directly here... Thanks alot for the advice guys! I hope this turns out ok, from photobucket: My floor Plan = EA HDB Flat, 144sq m, approx 1550 sq ft http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/EAHDBF.jpg <a href="http://s534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/?action=view¤t=EAHDBF.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee349/Peacesom/EAHDBF.jpg" border="0" alt="EA HBD Flat Floor Plan"></a> Trying again to see if the image shows up directly here... Ok great, now this are the rest: Living room with high ceiling and run down kitchen Masterbed room and toilet.... Looking forward to your advice if a Loft in the living room is possible! Cheers Peacesom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes187 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2008 Just some comments... 1) HDB will probably NOT approve... It seems that if u add an extra level, the structure may not be designed to take the extra weight. 2) You living room ceiling is high but dont seem high enough for a loft. The lower level will feel small and cramped and the upper layer may not have standing space. a rough calculation of the height needed will be 2.1m for lower flr, 2.1m for upper flr and another 0.5m for the flooring thickness. So u need about 4.7m of height to get a comfotable living space... Is your ceiling that tall now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmartFool 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2008 hey ur plan looks really good Pasir Ris is nice!! anyway gd luck for the reno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunBun 5 Report post Posted August 18, 2008 Thats a very high ceiling for the living room I like! but I think HDB will not approve cos its a HDB flat, not a pte property where you can create an extra level. Plus if you sell it after sometime, you got to turn it back to its original condition. I think the trick would be understanding how to suit the loft theme to your place cos the loft theme calls for exposed pipes and ducts in the ceiling, a great room floor plan, floor to ceiling windows, exposed interior brick, stained cement floors even in luxury homes, metal stairs and handrails, stainless steel kitchen appliances, and modern/contemporary furnishings. Peacesom, can check this forumer's blog out here for some ideas on how to get that loft theme. http://www.renotalk.com/forum/index.php?sh...4614&st=160 His home is the industrial kind mixed with modern & vintage like furnishings which is exactly what loft theme is best described in loft apartments overseas.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peacesom 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2008 Thats a very high ceiling for the living room I like! but I think HDB will not approve cos its a HDB flat, not a pte property where you can create an extra level. Plus if you sell it after sometime, you got to turn it back to its original condition. I think the trick would be understanding how to suit the loft theme to your place cos the loft theme calls for exposed pipes and ducts in the ceiling, a great room floor plan, floor to ceiling windows, exposed interior brick, stained cement floors even in luxury homes, metal stairs and handrails, stainless steel kitchen appliances, and modern/contemporary furnishings. Peacesom, can check this forumer's blog out here for some ideas on how to get that loft theme. http://www.renotalk.com/forum/index.php?sh...4614&st=160 His home is the industrial kind mixed with modern & vintage like furnishings which is exactly what loft theme is best described in loft apartments overseas.. Thanks for the info Bunbun. That link that you sent.. really *****... very "Raw"..... industrial design concept as you call it! I was thinking perhaps we can build a separate structure within the living room such that it doesnt have to be approved by HDB... no need for hacking of walls etc.. like some metallic ladder leading up to a higher platform housing the loft structure... just initial thoughts... Not sure exactly how high is the ceiling though.. would HDB have such info? Just some comments... 1) HDB will probably NOT approve... It seems that if u add an extra level, the structure may not be designed to take the extra weight. 2) You living room ceiling is high but dont seem high enough for a loft. The lower level will feel small and cramped and the upper layer may not have standing space. a rough calculation of the height needed will be 2.1m for lower flr, 2.1m for upper flr and another 0.5m for the flooring thickness. So u need about 4.7m of height to get a comfotable living space... Is your ceiling that tall now? You've got a point.... perhaps no standing room, just a love nest where one can climb up, have to bend down to walk around... and chill with some nice music, low lying couches, and have a mini fridge up there for drinks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunBun 5 Report post Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) Yup it is considered industrial design concept. But loft theme is also based on that actually because the term loft came from those warehouses which apartments were built from. So every structure is all industrial like & it became a classic trend in recent years since loft spaces are quite airy with intact structures + big windows, high ceiling. Since your living room ceiling is high, why don't you try extending the balcony door height to form a 3 panel clear glass doors. Again this is up to your individual preference though. I once came across a flickr blog on a tastefully done up loft apartment. When I mean tastefully done, its not those usual modern contemporary look in a loft apartment. The owner brought out the essence of the loft apartment by having an open concept industrial kitchen style, the living room played in rich, dark bold colours like purple walls with grey sofa. The dining table is a modest 4 seat square table in birch veneer (something like Ikea's birch veneer furniture) with those common metal chairs that are usually found in cafes & outdoor use. The master bedroom is done in olive colour and sparsely done. I still remember this blog but I lost the bookmark link to the blog cos I reformatted my pc some time ago. I could have kope more ideas from it. Edited August 20, 2008 by BunBun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applefreak 1 Report post Posted August 21, 2008 i don't think it's advisable to built a concrete platform in your hdb flat it will most probably exceed the loading limit and compromise the integrity of the building structure you might want to consider getting carpenters to build a wooden loft instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
