Spacious Planning @ Imm

[hunter 0]

Hi hunter,

1 month is a bit optimistic (for any ID firm) unless it does not required approval for hacking walls and it's a simple renovation. Most reno takes around 2-2.5mths. Did they say 1mth from start of hacking?

2.5mths just for carpentry work is a bit long. Was there a lot of special requirements and/or changes along the way?

If you told him over the phone and he still not get it right then you can demand him to go down onsite to sort it out.

What was your reno cost? What stage is your renovation now?

Cheers

Yep, there is hacking of half a wall. aot of carpentry work? NOT AT ALL ... just the kitchen cabinets, TV console and a build-in dressing table.

'If you told him over the phone and he still not get it right then you can demand him to go down onsite to sort it out." -- the thing about this is whenever i told him about any defects i found, he would say things like that, "Yes, i saw that too, and on top of that, i also see some other defects which you have not mentioned." HE SAW THE DEFECTS AND HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING?!

my reno cost is about $30K++. Right now, the renovation is towards the end already. All major works have been completed. They are clearing the loose end now.

[h4happy 1]

Yep, there is hacking of half a wall. aot of carpentry work? NOT AT ALL ... just the kitchen cabinets, TV console and a build-in dressing table.

'If you told him over the phone and he still not get it right then you can demand him to go down onsite to sort it out." -- the thing about this is whenever i told him about any defects i found, he would say things like that, "Yes, i saw that too, and on top of that, i also see some other defects which you have not mentioned." HE SAW THE DEFECTS AND HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING?!

my reno cost is about $30K++. Right now, the renovation is towards the end already. All major works have been completed. They are clearing the loose end now.

Hi Hunter

Any pic to show us?

One forumer over here experiences the same as you, kitchen cabinet terribly done.

[hunter 0]

Another thing which i would like to clarify is this service which most if not all ID companies provide - ID would go shopping with the customer to select their furniture. And by my standard, this includes sofa, dinning set, carpets, lightings, curtains, basin, taps and everything that would affect the overall design which is initially proposed by the ID. For my ID, he went "shopping" with us only on lighting, sofa and basin. And for these items, he would select one, at most 2 shops for us to view. so die die have to get something from those shops. whenever we requested him to come out shopping with us over the weekends, he would say that his company doesnt allow him to do so as the company wants him to stay in the shop to attend to walk-in customers. he would ask me to take leave during weekdays instead. THIS IS RIDICULOUS! I paid for his "professional service" and he wants me to take leave to accommodate his timing?! So for stuffs like bed, dinning sets and carpet, we actually went on our own. what he suggest us to do was to take pics and mms to him. wahhhh ... like that he sibeh song leh. he sit in the office while we do the travelling.

May i ask the standard in the industry now? Are all other IDs practising this way too?

[h4happy 1]

Another thing which i would like to clarify is this service which most if not all ID companies provide - ID would go shopping with the customer to select their furniture. And by my standard, this includes sofa, dinning set, carpets, lightings, curtains, basin, taps and everything that would affect the overall design which is initially proposed by the ID. For my ID, he went "shopping" with us only on lighting, sofa and basin. And for these items, he would select one, at most 2 shops for us to view. so die die have to get something from those shops. whenever we requested him to come out shopping with us over the weekends, he would say that his company doesnt allow him to do so as the company wants him to stay in the shop to attend to walk-in customers. he would ask me to take leave during weekdays instead. THIS IS RIDICULOUS! I paid for his "professional service" and he wants me to take leave to accommodate his timing?! So for stuffs like bed, dinning sets and carpet, we actually went on our own. what he suggest us to do was to take pics and mms to him. wahhhh ... like that he sibeh song leh. he sit in the office while we do the travelling.

May i ask the standard in the industry now? Are all other IDs practising this way too?

Before sign on the dotted line: everything can

After sign on the dotted line: all excuses come out.

That is the disadvantage owners are facing now!

[lifestyle 0]

Care to share some pics of your reno progress?

Do you have a schedule/deliverable list that both yourself & ID to follow along? Normally IDs will try deliver the work on time so that they can collect the progressive payments faster to paid to their workers.

So what are the reasons for the little carpentry to take 2.5mths as what you said?

"Loose end" as in rectification work?

Yep, there is hacking of half a wall. aot of carpentry work? NOT AT ALL ... just the kitchen cabinets, TV console and a build-in dressing table.

'If you told him over the phone and he still not get it right then you can demand him to go down onsite to sort it out." -- the thing about this is whenever i told him about any defects i found, he would say things like that, "Yes, i saw that too, and on top of that, i also see some other defects which you have not mentioned." HE SAW THE DEFECTS AND HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING?!

my reno cost is about $30K++. Right now, the renovation is towards the end already. All major works have been completed. They are clearing the loose end now.

[hunter 0]

Care to share some pics of your reno progress?

Do you have a schedule/deliverable list that both yourself & ID to follow along? Normally IDs will try deliver the work on time so that they can collect the progressive payments faster to paid to their workers.

So what are the reasons for the little carpentry to take 2.5mths as what you said?

"Loose end" as in rectification work?

The thing about this ID is this. Initially before i signed on the line, i specifically ask him on a timeline. He said he will work it out after i finished choosing the tiles. and before i proceed to choose the tiles, i must sign on the line.

Well, after choosing the tiles, i did mention about the timeline. His response was "I still have not submitted for HDB for approval, because we would be doing some hacking". He further explained that because the hacking period given by HDB would only be 1 week, therefore he did not submit it until the very last moment. And he said that HDB would normally come back only 2-3 weeks later! WTF! If he had known that, he should had submitted earlier rite!

This is the beginning of my nightmare!

Everytime i gave him a dateline, he would either say the workload for that particular month is too much, or he would threathened me by saying "I cannot gaurantee the quality of the work if you want to rush." For his former remark my thinking was "why the f*** should i be affected? if the workload is too much for, then jolly well employ more workers la. why should the customer face the consequence?" and for his later threat he made, i am thinking of reverting back to his boss. I didnt want to revert to his boss initially because i was afraid that he might do a sh*tty job for me. apparently, that doesnt make any difference. cause it still sh*tty now, in terms of response time, service level and carpentary work!

[evad 0]

Hi GUys,

I am meeting up with a ID from Spacious next week for my quotation. Appreciate if you can advice me which ID you guys are talking about that is "bad". Pm me.

Thanks.

[Cantona7 0]

Another thing which i would like to clarify is this service which most if not all ID companies provide - ID would go shopping with the customer to select their furniture. And by my standard, this includes sofa, dinning set, carpets, lightings, curtains, basin, taps and everything that would affect the overall design which is initially proposed by the ID. For my ID, he went "shopping" with us only on lighting, sofa and basin. And for these items, he would select one, at most 2 shops for us to view. so die die have to get something from those shops. whenever we requested him to come out shopping with us over the weekends, he would say that his company doesnt allow him to do so as the company wants him to stay in the shop to attend to walk-in customers. he would ask me to take leave during weekdays instead. THIS IS RIDICULOUS! I paid for his "professional service" and he wants me to take leave to accommodate his timing?! So for stuffs like bed, dinning sets and carpet, we actually went on our own. what he suggest us to do was to take pics and mms to him. wahhhh ... like that he sibeh song leh. he sit in the office while we do the travelling.

May i ask the standard in the industry now? Are all other IDs practising this way too?

Hi Hunter,

Sad to hear ur bad encounter, my advise don ever go out shopping with ur ID cos they will get commission from the shopowner. So as well u go and take pics and show it to ur ID b4 take the order.

So have u completed ur hse reno and any pics to share with us cos we are earger to look at the design.

[lifestyle 0]

Agree with bro Cantona7. You might also want to ask your ID to don't get the commision from the furnitures shop and instead just minus from your purchase price

Just tell the ID that you prefer he/her to come along to choose matching items to fit with the reno design...just said if you choose wrongly or clashes with the design ...how? Said not nice to show in forum.

If you drive, offer him/her a lift & go together...i'm sure they would go along with you on your shopping trip but you must prepared your homework by narrowing down your choice in advance in case cannot take pics.

Yes pics please

Hi Hunter,

Sad to hear ur bad encounter, my advise don ever go out shopping with ur ID cos they will get commission from the shopowner. So as well u go and take pics and show it to ur ID b4 take the order.

So have u completed ur hse reno and any pics to share with us cos we are earger to look at the design.

[firipy 0]

I had met them as well n waiting for quotes, anyone has any reviews or experience with them, seems like they are not mentioned much in this forum.....

[noelng 0]

Anyone has any experience with Tom from Spacious Planners? I find him pretty good. But I'm worried about all the negative comments posted in this thread. Any advice?

[raylinda 0]

Hi I visited Spacious Planners and spoken to a lady ... quite like their style .... anyone has done their reno with them? pls share or comments....

[ahberden 0]

Hi I visited Spacious Planners and spoken to a lady ... quite like their style .... anyone has done their reno with them? pls share or comments....

Hi,

I have requested for a quote from Spacious before.

If you want to take a look at the quote, feel free to PM me.

Edited December 17, 2007 by ahberden

[assirac 0]

Managed to tok to their ID, design wise was impressive, not sure about their prices though.

*fingers crossed*

Edited January 23, 2008 by assirac

[DLIM 0]

Anyone sign with them recently?

Please PM me the quote.

Thanks

Edited February 16, 2008 by DLIM