Ge 2011 Talk

[LADY_R 0]

I just find our politics is a boring one. They never play a fair game..instead keep on cheating & cheat.. Our area will be that lady Halimah if Im not wrong.. hope she be gone for good..didn't help the ppl at all, instead she is just a puppet to the party. When ask to nod she jus nod. When over to my new flat last night and saw some crowd.. I only see from far..what a waste of time..after 5yrs this is the only time can talk to them or shake hand...after GE? MIA

[DL838 0]

WP's Eric Tan & Glenda Han should be in East Coast GRC. Glenda Han came visiting last week, quietly and friendly with another guy, unlike Raymond Lim who has an entourage with him. The last time he came in 2006, there were 5 guys in white stomping down the stairs before him & a few minutes later he appeared with another few guys! Total waste of resources!

[marshmallow 0]

I just find our politics is a boring one. They never play a fair game..instead keep on cheating & cheat.. Our area will be that lady Halimah if Im not wrong.. hope she be gone for good..didn't help the ppl at all, instead she is just a puppet to the party. When ask to nod she jus nod. When over to my new flat last night and saw some crowd.. I only see from far..what a waste of time..after 5yrs this is the only time can talk to them or shake hand...after GE? MIA

my side of Jurong used to be Lim Boon Heng, i found him quite okie... too bad he has "retired".

i thought Halimah is Bukit Batok side....

[LADY_R 0]

my side of Jurong used to be Lim Boon Heng, i found him quite okie... too bad he has "retired".

i thought Halimah is Bukit Batok side....

she under Jurong GRC

[marshmallow 0]

she under Jurong GRC

yea that part of Bukit Batok is actually under Jurong GRC.... that's what i mean...

http://www.jrtc.org.sg/index.php?option=co...0&Itemid=57

your side used to be Lim Boon Heng too, dunno who is taking over~

Edited April 21, 2011 by marshmallow

[LADY_R 0]

yea that part of Bukit Batok is actually under Jurong GRC.... that's what i mean...

http://www.jrtc.org.sg/index.php?option=co...0&Itemid=57

your side used to be Lim Boon Heng too, dunno who is taking over~

wahahahah..who ever take over, can't be bother. I see under Estate Info > Upgrading Programme.. My blk is not in the list at all..

[marshmallow 0]

wahahahah..who ever take over, can't be bother. I see under Estate Info > Upgrading Programme.. My blk is not in the list at all..

i think their website is very outdated... my block is under the Neighbourhood Renewal Programme but also never mentioned in the list

well since the website is so outdated, i supposed we won't get some funky web contest to win iPad like some other GRC............

[rickoveron 0]

Differences of SC&C charges between Holland-Bukit Timah TC and Jurong TC.

HBTTC / JTC HBTTC / JTC

Flat Type Normal Rate* Reduced Rate

1-Room 52.2 / 55.5 +3.3 18.5 / 19.5 +1

2-Room 52.7 / 56 +3.3 26.5 / 28 +1.5

3-Room 53.5 / 58 +4.5 36.5 / 39.5 +3

4-Room 57 / 61.5 +4.5 48 / 51.6 +3.6

5-Room 67.5 / 71.3 +3.8 60.5 / 64.7 +4.2

Executive 76.5 / 84.6 +8.1 76.5 / 84.6 +8.1

[bepgof 20]

An extract from Asiaone forum dated 16/4/11.

MBT slapped his own face again, read underlined.

To understand how distorted HDB flat prices are, all you need is to take a look at the charts comparing the Straits Times Index (STI), the Private Property Index (PPI) and the HDB Resale Price Index (RPI) over the last 20 years.

You could easily see HDB prices going in line with economic fundamentals, especially after the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis, the Dot Com Bubble and the Sept 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.

However, after the subprime crisis, the STI and the PPI crashed while the HDB RPI kept breaking new record highs. The main reason is simple: extremely low supply met with high demand from Singaporeans and new immigrants.

From 2006 to 2008, only 10,950 units were built and during this period, our population grew by about 10 per cent or 439,000 to 4,839,400, mostly through immigration. (Source: HDB annual report FY 2008/2009 and Singapore Department of Statistics)

When HDB prices fail to keep in line with economic fundamentals, is the government being responsible?

Demand from foreigners:

In the March 2010 Parliament sitting, Minister for National Development, Mr Mah Bow Tan said that “PRs make up “only” one in five resale flat buyers and have minimal impact on resale prices.”

That’s 20 per cent and considered “minimal”? What is the latest figure now? 30 per cent? Is public housing for Singaporeans or foreigners?

Mismanagement of demand:

On 14 March 2010 during an interview with CNA, Mr Mah said:

“The overall objective is to make sure housing prices do not outstrip real economy… in that sense what we try to do is make sure prices don’t go up faster than incomes and make sure prices don’t go down or crash. And that’s the reason why we target NOT the real demand. The fundamental objective of HDB housing is owner occupation and long-term investment.”

From the comment above, it is evident that Mr Mah is ignorant of the fact that prices are already going up faster than incomes. In his recent appearance on television where he broke down in tears, Minister Lim Boon Heng confirmed wages of lower income families were stagnant and worse, falling. Did Mr Mah fail to do what he set out to do, to “[make] sure prices don’t go up faster than incomes”? Also, how do we ensure adequate supply when we do not target real demand? Are housing demands of Singaporeans being ignored?

When asked by Nominated Member of Parliament (NMP), Mr Terry Lee, 22 February 2010 in Parliament, Senior Minister of State, Ministry of National Development, Ms Grace Fu said,

“The Government does not track the type of properties rented, purchased or owned by new citizens (20,513 in 2008, 2009 data unavailable). As a policy, we do not distinguish between indigenous and new citizens. Our commitment in housing is to provide sufficient and affordable flats for first-time Singaporean homebuyers, whether new citizens or otherwise.”

It is also clear that the PAP has no policy to monitor demand from new immigrants as well. How responsible is this?

In October 2010, the HDB Chief Executive Officer said:

“Well the BTO is a very important initiative because it enables us to gauge the demand, the real demand for flats. So I think using the BTO programme where people have to commit to buying a flat before we build is helpful for us because we know it is real demand.

“I think this is one clear benefit. And we will also know whether we are oversupplying or undersupplying based on gauging the demand from the BTO flats.”

I have my doubts of the effectiveness of using the BTO programme to gauge real demand. It does not include discouraged young Singaporeans who cannot afford or who may have given up on buying a HDB flat and who are putting up at their parents’ flats.

In addition, every BTO project needs time to build. By the time you discover a surge in demand, it will take another 3 to 5 years to find the right balance again.

Summary:

Singaporeans are forever grateful to the late Mr Lim Kim San for what he has done. From Wikipedia -

“In 1960, due to a rapidly increasing population, more than 400,000 people were living in over-crowded conditions in ramshackle “chophouse” buildings or in squatters with substandard living conditions. At this time, Mr. Lim was appointed to the Housing and Development Board (HDB). He had volunteered for the job and had not been paid for 3 long years! It was in this position that Mr. Lim oversaw the massive construction of high-rise, low-cost apartments that will eventually become the main source of housing for Singaporeans.

Mr. Lim was known for his organizing and planning abilities. He forwent a detailed planning stage and instead chose a “rough and ready” approach to work fast using rough estimates of the housing requirement. In the first two year of this crash program, over 25,000 units were built, more than what was built in the previous decade.

Mr. Lim defied all detractors, in particular those in the Singapore Improvement Trust, who said he could not build 10,000 units a year. A committee was eventually set up under Professor Lim Tay Boh to find out whether the HDB had the capability and the materials to reach the construction goal.

By the time Professor Lim’s committee published its report, the HDB had already completed 10,000 units of housing.”

If Mr Lim Kim San could do it, why is Mr Mah blaming Singaporeans and blaming his job as an unpopular one due to limited land? The mess that Mr Mah has created is huge and we need someone more capable and responsible to make things right again.

Edited April 21, 2011 by bepgof

[bepgof 20]

Another example of "raiding the nation reserve":

- Why have university places for foreigners whereby locals with good results can't get in? Never mind, these foreigners are given scholarship by our government! Take RI's boarding house for examples, the foreign students staying there were under scholarships by MOE! Why like that? Talent trading?

Months back, a group of 3 RI JC students approached me through my neighbour for "consultation" of RC plane techniques as they were taking part in a competition, during the process, found out that these 2 out of 3 are under MOE's scholarship to china. Asked them how many of them as they knew of under such scholarship, reply was : many!

Edited April 21, 2011 by bepgof

[bepgof 20]

I more I aware of these "unfairness", I bo tahan.

Questions are:

- At whose's expense?

- Bother to make known to public the figures?

Edited April 21, 2011 by bepgof

[bepgof 20]

Though I don't stay in Tampines, hope the NSP can get Mah and his team out.

Edited April 22, 2011 by bepgof

[matrix0405 0]

[therat 18]

Finally, I manage to login.

This noon, left my block. Saw there are 1 PAP flag. Come back at 5:30pm, saw more PAP flags.

So fast , can nail flag liao ar?

[bepgof 20]

Got RC at blk 409 mah.

Finally, I manage to login.

This noon, left my block. Saw there are 1 PAP flag. Come back at 5:30pm, saw more PAP flags.

So fast , can nail flag liao ar?