Edelweiss Park Condo

[pantieileen 2]

Seriously i don't think there'll be much effect with all these road widening. It's only solving the problems of jams in the morning and evening to and from the industrial estate.

1) already started and not much effect. I ended up having to complain to LTA/URA/Abdullah Tarmugi/TP/NPCC Changi, bedok, simei, pasir ris/ Ballota Park/ Edelweiss Cdo/ Cisco for fining landed residents for parking along mariam way coz stupid condo residents complain us for blocking the road.

2) & 3) only help those industrial estate if you are going home in the evening or entering expressway in the morning for work they are not widening that direction also

4) 99yr hedges park already up for sale

so many ABNN, PRC, Pinoys moving into this estate..even got afros!

[sng28 2]

"so many ABNN, PRC, Pinoys moving into this estate..even got afros! "????@?!?!?!?!? u kidding me.......i'm not a really their fan... =X...

i'm surprised condo ppl complain abt ppl parking along mariam way coz that place is landed location..so naturally such acts are common? so long still can drive through i don't see any issue abt it though..odd...

Seriously i don't think there'll be much effect with all these road widening. It's only solving the problems of jams in the morning and evening to and from the industrial estate.

1) already started and not much effect. I ended up having to complain to LTA/URA/Abdullah Tarmugi/TP/NPCC Changi, bedok, simei, pasir ris/ Ballota Park/ Edelweiss Cdo/ Cisco for fining landed residents for parking along mariam way coz stupid condo residents complain us for blocking the road.

2) & 3) only help those industrial estate if you are going home in the evening or entering expressway in the morning for work they are not widening that direction also

4) 99yr hedges park already up for sale

so many ABNN, PRC, Pinoys moving into this estate..even got afros!

[pantieileen 2]

"so many ABNN, PRC, Pinoys moving into this estate..even got afros! "????@?!?!?!?!? u kidding me.......i'm not a really their fan... =X...

i'm surprised condo ppl complain abt ppl parking along mariam way coz that place is landed location..so naturally such acts are common? so long still can drive through i don't see any issue abt it though..odd...

To Sir,

I am a resident of Mariam Walk and have been living here for 6years. When I first moved in, the parking situation was worse in our sleepy Changi neighborhood. Temple celebrations and events were more frequent and parking was uncontrollable even with fewer residential developments. After several complaints, the temple cut down their celebrations and informed residents of its events a week prior so that residents could come home earlier or later than usual and be able to park their cars and reach home. This was a good move. The temple and residents coexisted harmoniously.

With completed residential developments such as Edelweiss Park, a new road Mariam way – Flora Road connector was opened this week. There was inevitably, higher traffic in the neighborhood this week.

Events in March 2011

We were notified by the Yan Kit Temple weeks ago that a deity, Tua Pekong is celebrating his birthday from 6th March to 9th March 2011. Unfortunately, one of our neighbors from No.2 Mariam Walk had a stroke and passed away on the 8th March. His wake was held along Mariam Walk and ended on 12th March. A birthday celebration and a funeral turned into a parking nightmare. Despite this, cars were parked neatly along the 2-way, single white line street. Neighbors at the wake watched out for each other’s cars and we made it a point to park bumper to bumper so that everyone could park and walk a shorter distance home. Name cards, telephone numbers and addresses were also left on our windscreen so that we could be notified if our cars need to be shifted. Traffic was slower than usual since parking extended along Mariam Way instead of being confined to Mariam Walk. Perhaps the tents of the wake and temple celebration stage made visibility a tad poorer. But we just had to drive slower and be patient to keep the parking orderly.

Role of Certis Cisco

However, 2 Certis Cisco wardens arrived at 7pm on 9th March 2011, this was the beginning of peak hour traffic when residents came home, visitors came for the wake and devotees celebrated the deity’s birthday. Residents, devotees and visitors who parked along Mariam Way were told to move their cars or we could be fined. But the residents were not told where to park at. There is no public parking around here, with the nearest in the Pasir Ris estate that is about 2km away.

We were later informed that the complaint came from a resident from a nearby condominium (Ballota Park CDO or Edelweiss Park CDO). To be fair, whenever there is a death of a resident from Ballota Park CDO or Edelweiss Park CDO, their wake is also held along the same Mariam Way and never in their own gated communities. We were told condominiums do not allow wakes or funerals in their own estates despite having a large compound and ample parking but they are allowed to hold birthday celebrations or parties in their clubhouse. Perhaps the condominium residents do not understand death. Funerals and wakes did not come across their minds when they moved in.

There was talk that the National Park (NPark) would like to convert the Mariam Walk Park into a public carpark, a basketball court or public area but this was turned down by residents. I absolutely support the idea that the park should be kept as a park. There are elderly residents using the park for exercising and mingling, kids running around the playground, pet lovers walking their dogs in the park and even private instructors giving fitness programs in the park. We should not be denied a park that has been fully utilized and achieved its purposed as a public space for recreational use for all residents.

Suggestions

I am not condoning at the selfish nature of certain condominium residents nor am I advocating illegal and random parking all along the streets of Singapore. I am merely suggesting the relevant authorities help residents manage parking in our residential estate and that the relevant condo management remind their residents to be more accommodating during funeral or temple events. LTA has outsourced the managing of parking to Certis Cisco but obviously slapping a parking ticket to residents who were just trying to return home after a work did not help the problem at all. Certis Cisco should try to contain the root of the problem rather than walking around and slapping fines. It should only allow authorized residents to park along the street (even if there is a single white line) by checking their addresses on their NRIC, direct moving traffic around the area during evening peak hours from 6pm to 11pm, but only when there is a funeral wake or a temple event. This cost could be passed on to the family of the deceased or the temple for using the public road. The wardens sent were also Muslim, and did not seem to understand the sensitiveness involved, which seemed to be inconsiderate and insensitive move on the part of the authorities. Residents at Mariam should not be penalized for religious events or the loss of loved ones.

I look forward to your responses.

[pantieileen 2]

I guess Abdullah retiring soon so just pass to neighborhood committee to handle...URA/TP/NPCC say LTA should handle. LTA call me say thank you for being such a kind resident to provide suggestions. So, wait and see till someone passes on and if condo residents will complain again...

From: Abdullah TARMUGI (PARL) <parl_abdullah@parl.gov.sg>

Date: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Subject: FW: Parking Improvements along Mariam Way

Message Classification: Unclassified

Dear Ms xx,

I refer to your email below. I am the MP covering the Siglap ward (under the East Coast GRC), which covers the area where you live. I am familiar with the problems you raised and the issues and stakeholders involved. The traffic problem is a long-standing one. The real reason is that there are simply too many cars on the roads. Still, so long as residents understand situation, remain tolerant and considerate and are prepared to help each other out to make the best of the living conditions in the area, the community can function. You have rightly enumerated the ways residents cope with the situation in the area. I empathise with your sentiments about the less-than-helpful attitudes that exist among some residents in the condominiums, and of the lack of thoughtlessness of some public officers when they go about carrying out their duties.

Doubtlessly, the search for a comprehensive solution to the parking issues in the Mariam area would have to involve several parties. The issues are complicated and would need the attention of the residents, the condominium management and the government agencies involved in managing the parking issues in the area. I have asked the Neighbourhood Committee in the area to pay increased attention to the parking problems and to explore the possibility of convening a meeting of all the stakeholders to look into ways of resolving the issues you have so kindly brought up.

Thank you.

A.T.

[bepgof 20]

Problem of this estate is the bottle neck at North upper changi road, Loyang ave. If these 2 rds never get "widen", no hope liao. Morning jam, evening jam. I've been working in Loyang way 1, just shifted to Changi Business park - every 3 minutes "seow" one time - planes fly over at super low height.

Edited April 8, 2011 by bepgof

[ZondaR 0]

These terrace houses along Mariam area, all have private parking lots within their compound. But it puzzles me why they chose to park outside and hence, causing the usable road space to be narrowed. I notice it is 'troublesome' for these terrace home owners to open their gates and drive their car in, as it takes more than 3 minutes to complete the entire excercise. Having said that, people are just getting too impatient or lazy these days. In the end, they still can find lots of time complaining to MPs.

[pantieileen 2]

These terrace houses along Mariam area, all have private parking lots within their compound. But it puzzles me why they chose to park outside and hence, causing the usable road space to be narrowed. I notice it is 'troublesome' for these terrace home owners to open their gates and drive their car in, as it takes more than 3 minutes to complete the entire excercise. Having said that, people are just getting too impatient or lazy these days. In the end, they still can find lots of time complaining to MPs.

Depends on what time you visit the estate. Each house normally has 2-4cars each. A particular unit has 5! One pathetic house only has 1 lot

[ZondaR 0]

Depends on what time you visit the estate. Each house normally has 2-4cars each. A particular unit has 5! One pathetic house only has 1 lot

So maybe these terrace house should create their own parking spaces just like condos. For condos they pay monthly maintenance and the parking spaces are included in the property prices. Some condos also charge extra for additonal cars. Hence, landed property owners should not complain, since they get 'free' parking spaces when parking on the roads. Maybe the developer of these cluster housing should build-in the prices of additional parking spaces for these terraces and create private carparks.

I was driving past changi heights the other day and saw home owners using anything from rubbish bin to flower pots to reserve a parking lot. and the road is constructed using taxpayers money. So I wonder why these landed property owners are complaining about condo owners using the road space for funeral wakes.

Edited April 20, 2011 by ZondaR

[sng28 2]

wah such a long list of replies... are you guys all staying ard that area? erms..sounds fierce...maybe coz i'm not facing these issues YET hahahaha when i've moved in perhaps my list of concerns wiill be longer than any of yours!! =X

sorry being abit cranky here as i'm having headache over my reno...by the way does anyone here knows if i can tint my window with films that prevents the opposite neighbours from looking in

[mmm 0]

Wow, we drove past yesterday and with the road connection made, the entire area looks very nice and exclusive now. Hopefully it brings greater value to our property.

[pantieileen 2]

wah such a long list of replies... are you guys all staying ard that area? erms..sounds fierce...maybe coz i'm not facing these issues YET <img src="http://www.renotalk.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> hahahaha when i've moved in perhaps my list of concerns wiill be longer than any of yours!! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> =X

sorry being abit cranky here as i'm having headache over my reno...by the way does anyone here knows if i can tint my window with films that prevents the opposite neighbours from looking in

u can tint your windows until opaque also can...there's no restriction at all

anyway as a resident in this area, we have the right to complain or feedback to ensure a harmonious environment. The relevant departments ought to know what is going on else we pay tax for what. I suppose one who thinks it's public road so we shouldn't complain since we don't pay parking fees must be like one of those random passengers on public trains, spot a young person sleeping on a train with facemask and a heavily pregnant woman standing but won't do anything. nothing surprising to me. this is singapore ultimately

[sng28 2]

ahahah i don't usually complain to govt/govt-allied bodies..find its a waste of time and effort... and many times make me feel like ..wonder if i'm the idiert or they are the idert...hahaha i've come to a point tt no point fighting too hard in sillypore..maybe still bearable to me so trying to be nice while i can...hhehe i like peace..its simple yet hard to achieve..tot that this area is quiet and peaceful..(though i'm surrendered by neighbours with live "mini stereos")...piang...hahaha :D just got to tk 1 step at a time...to understand and appreciate liveliness = life ?

btw interesting to know that there are residents who don't drive in our area? i mean is it convenient? I tot our district is a die die must drive car kinda location... my ex owner is a late bloomer....which explains why my car park lot is on B2 and not B1 and i cant even get additional car park lot now as its full..was told there if its in the first 2years the chances are higher.... :bleah:

oh yeah wanna ask fellow residents here..anyone of you bought the condo as a resale? what did you do to the bathtub? remove? change new tub? revamp MBR toilet? i tot of removing it 'gently' so that tiles will only suffer the min impact and then perhaps do a vanity or sth at the area...any comments or ideas are much appreciated! :yamseng:

u can tint your windows until opaque also can...there's no restriction at all

anyway as a resident in this area, we have the right to complain or feedback to ensure a harmonious environment. The relevant departments ought to know what is going on else we pay tax for what. I suppose one who thinks it's public road so we shouldn't complain since we don't pay parking fees must be like one of those random passengers on public trains, spot a young person sleeping on a train with facemask and a heavily pregnant woman standing but won't do anything. nothing surprising to me. this is singapore ultimately

Edited April 25, 2011 by sng28

[ZondaR 0]

Hedges park going for 850psf median price? and its only 99years. What is the value of edelweiss now?

[pantieileen 2]

Hedges park going for 850psf median price? and its only 99years. What is the value of edelweiss now?

At the Hedges Park showroom 2weeks ago, an agent told me price for Hedges Park "IS NOT FIXED". The price gap i remember was 200psf difference. Then i ask why your pricing is in a chart, he said company didn't know what to price yet...funny sia but i remember it was price of Ballota Park resale then Mommy said might as well get Ballota Park coz the size is what you see what you get. Hedges park size includes what balcony and aircon ledges feel abit cheated like that...plus...99yr and cannot rent immediately

Edited April 26, 2011 by pantieileen

[mmm 0]

We've a unit at ballota park that is currently rented out to a very good cacausian couple. It's their 3rd year with us. It is 1442 sq ft. Last floor and edelweiss facing.

We are wondering if we should sell off our unit at Ballota and buy a studio apartment in town.

Sorry to tap on this thread as might be easier to associate as it's that area. Any thoughts???