15 Shades of Grey - 4 RM BTO @ Woodlands Glen

[Clarence Lye 10]

13 hours ago, infinity2015 said:

sorry to hear this .... always find difficult to deal with IDs and contractors when they dont deliver ...

anyway, from what i know, caesarstone does have a pricing across the range (price range from 120-520 pfr for classico), supernatural frosty carrina, 20mm for width 600mm (20mm flat polish) is 190 pfr and 40mm downturn is 210 pfr. For Island top 700-900mm is 250 pfr 20mm, 40mm downturn is 290 pfr etc.  

May I know how much is the Blum related hinges and doors cost? blum is very expensive ...

Hi @infinity2015, yah. especially when both doesnt have the same workmanship/quality and eye for detail.

my island top that r&r quote me is around the high 350s pfr. it's a 6ft island, so the top alone cost 2100 and onwards.

Blum related hinges and door are all included as part of the agreed "standard" hinges/mechanism that i wanted.
same for both R&R and Justin.

Blum really has the quality and it's very sturdy as compared to other hinges. They are expensive for a reason. hahah. 

 

 

Bonus picture for today:


Chilling with a glass of coffee on my island.
It seems that Justin is not taking back the island table. i will make do with it first. Also, checking with R&R if they want to do this "sai kang" to re-laminate and touch up the island + increase the height.
still pending reply.

Edited December 29, 2017 by Clarence Lye

[infinity2015 1]

sorry to hear this .... always find difficult to deal with IDs and contractors when they dont deliver ...

anyway, from what i know, caesarstone does have a pricing across the range (price range from 120-520 pfr for classico), supernatural frosty carrina, 20mm for width 600mm (20mm flat polish) is 190 pfr and 40mm downturn is 210 pfr. For Island top 700-900mm is 250 pfr 20mm, 40mm downturn is 290 pfr etc.  

May I know how much is the Blum related hinges and doors cost? blum is very expensive ...

Edited December 28, 2017 by infinity2015

[Clarence Lye 10]

15 hours ago, KFC1189 said:

I am sorry to hear your quality issues. It seems to me your carpenter was trying to rush through your job and forgot to patch up any mistake that they made.

 

Sighs. Yah, tomorrow is the day. If they can't deliver, then too bad for them. Gonna not pay for the remaining.
They did too much damage to my kitchen walls!!

Look at the ugly holes at the washing machine area, and also the "wooden plank" to support my ledge is not even BALANCE/equal.
How to accept?? 

also, the bracket to support the ledge is so fugly. I thought ledge should be like a plank of wood stuck into the wall nicely kind. then with kompacplus on top?
Seems like not the case. Justin apparently used some ugly L shape bracket that is so old school and ugly and huge.

5 hours ago, matchalatte said:

hey! hows everything? sorry i havent been coming to renotalk v often nowadays, gotta re-read a few pages back. i dont really understand the part about you using another contractor for tabletop (justin) or is it the whole island counter? how come u didnt go with R&R? also, you mentioned yr island is 70+cm including the top, its actually dining table height. definitely too low to use as a worktop. have they rectified? and how are they going to increase the height unless they redo it? cant possibly be that they put something at the bottom of the island to make it higher right? 

hello~! Been good just that facing problem with this contractor that we engaged for the island/toilet door/ledge.
It's the whole Island (incl of table top) that we engaged Justin to do.

Justin is the contractor that is currently handling my parents-in-law's house renovation. He was previously from *** Interior.
He took over our initial ID (for my in-laws house), as we didnt like him and have some issues with him. Apparently, both of them moved to this company call Dezign Station (located at Tradehub 21) 

So we also ask him to quote us some of stuffs and find it quite reasonable pricing, but totally didnt expect that the quality is ...  x 999999...

Reason i didnt go with R&R is because of the pricing. 
R&R quoted me is about 5k (if remember correctly) for toilet door + island with ceasarstone top - 5141 (Frosty Carrina) as this colour belongs to the 2nd most expensive range of the ceasarstone as claimed by R&R.

With the same price, i can get additional ledge installed to put my kitchen mixer and air fryer.

Actually, this is just bullsh**. Ceasarstone themself don't charge you different price base on the type  you select. It's the same price for all across. Just that we consumer can't deal direct as there is MOQ.

The reason higher price is given maybe because of the MOQ they has to hit for certain model/etc, not because it falls under the Super Natural series it demands such high price per foot run.

Justin quoted me about 3.5k for everything (island, top, toilet door, ledge)

If you were me, i think you will go for Justin? 
I was thinking.. how bad can it be since he's from ***. Oh boy, i was so wrong...

Island height is not suppose to be 70+, all along i told him that i want it to match my countertop. He keep saying he noted, but till now.. it's the same.
I dont even think his carpenter that's coming tomorrow will even remember this. Justin say that they will insert wood underneath the top to increase the height.


Sighs, big regret now. Should just save up and wait abit more and just get R&R to do the job.
At least their workmanship is there and i don't have to worry.

 

really is 一分钱，一分货 (what you pay is what you get.)

 

 

 

*edit:

We just had a conference call with Justin (me, le wife, Justin), he himself say that he's not confident that his guys can complete the task tomorrow. So, to cut the story short, we are calling off the whole thing.

Things that we are going to retain:
- ceasarstone counter top (for the island, if he dont want to take back, i'll keep it and get R&R to rectify)
- kompacplus top + plywood support (he has to cut and give me the correct size as per the top
- common toilet door (he will get his guys to come replace the door 1-1 to the glass panel on tuesday. The price i paid for comes with glass panel but they installed hard PVC  instead. Cheat money!)

Told him to re-calculate the cost, and also told him that we won't be topping up him any amount as all the works are not complete.

Also separately, called my ID - Danielle and told her about these issues. She must be thinking that why I dont engage her to do these in the first place.
Oh well, it's always the cost issue. I ask her to check with her carpenters if they can come re-laminate all all the defect laminates on the island and ledge. Told her that we can pay for the labour and materials, she say ok but still waiting confirmation on this.

Anyway, that's how things are at this moment.
Cheap = not good
Good = not cheap
Conclusion: Cheap + Good = dont exist. 

Edited December 28, 2017 by Clarence Lye

[matchalatte 16]

hey! hows everything? sorry i havent been coming to renotalk v often nowadays, gotta re-read a few pages back. i dont really understand the part about you using another contractor for tabletop (justin) or is it the whole island counter? how come u didnt go with R&R? also, you mentioned yr island is 70+cm including the top, its actually dining table height. definitely too low to use as a worktop. have they rectified? and how are they going to increase the height unless they redo it? cant possibly be that they put something at the bottom of the island to make it higher right? 

[KFC1189 11]

I am sorry to hear your quality issues. It seems to me your carpenter was trying to rush through your job and forgot to patch up any mistake that they made.

 

Edited December 27, 2017 by KFC1189

[Clarence Lye 10]

Yesterday Justin came and fixed the ledge.

I personally feel his workmanship and follow up is totally unacceptable.  
It's really what you pay and what you get. Oh well, cant be blame because R&R can't give me the price i want.
The price i paid for Door + Ledge + Island + Top = what R&R quote me for just the caesarstone tabletop. But this is the kind of quality you get loh. *sighs*


We gave him till Friday, if everything is not done. he will remove the ledge, patch up my wall, and not collect money from us (apart from the 50% we paid, which is worth it for the island price. )

Look at how bad the works are done, seriously.. it's just damaging and hurtful to the eyes. Oh well, it's Wednesday, 2 more days.
the support wooden plank is shorter than my ledge, that one i just give in. Dont want to argue with him anymore.

(OMG! look at the edges of the "support table")


(gaps everywhere, it's not flushed and clean. )


(screws missing underneath)


(incorrect screw used, the screw can't be fully tighten)

 

 

This is the area where the "wrongly cut" ledge suppose to be, on top of the washing machine.
When he came to fix it on Saturday, his carpenter didnt show up. (kenna play out i guess).

So he DIY and installed the ledge. Given the ledge is abit lengthy and heavy, how can someone just fix it blindly without even using the water level tool to check if it's straight? So i was chilling by the sofa doing my stuffs and check on him after he's done. (should have eye on him..)

First thing i saw, the whole ledge is not balance, then between the ledge and bracket the gap is so huge.

(look at the gap between his bracket and the top)

Then, screw holes not straight. Lastly, the wall plug (the plastic they put into the wall so the screw can screw in) can be just easily removed when i use my hands to pull it out.

(How is this straight to anyone? I dont even need my water level tool to check if the ledge is straight, just have to look at the screws!)


Seriously? Am i suppose to accept this? I can remove the whole screw+wall plug with just my fingers and you call that a ledge? What can it support? Ants maybe?
Got so pissed that i removed everything myself and tell him this is not working. He can have back the ledge.

And to top it off, he SCREW it through the top and then "trim" off the screw part at the top and plaster it with wall putty -.-
Seriously OMG to the max. 


My vision of how a ledge should look is something like the picture below, just that it's in kompacplus top and wider and deeper base.

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Clarence Lye

[Clarence Lye 10]

Curtains are installed today by NST Curtain (find them familiar? they are all over your lift in every BTO block. haha)

I personally find their price and quality not bad, as compared to other vendors/curtain shops that i've visited.
Reasonable price and good quality.

Here are the pictures of Living, Study Room, Guest Room, Master Room:

(Living Room: Day + Night Curtain)

(Study Room: Venetian Blinds - we topped up for the better quality ones, they have 2 range)

(Guest Room: Standard roller blind)

(Master Room: Day + night, same colour as living)

 

 

Btw, the rectification works are still not done by Justin.

1) island table height not yet increased
2) island carpentry works not yet touch up
3) island countertop not yet glue to the wood
4) kitchen ledge not fixed yet
5) washing machine ledge fixed but it was slanted, got pissed and told him to remove it. my wall is so ugly and damaged now. Have requested for him to paint and touch up the wall... (picture tomorrow)
6) common toilet door haven change, was promised glass door but came hard PVC acrylic door. -.- *Cheat money*

Le wife sent a nasty whatsapp msg to him on Saturday, telling him that if by Friday all these not fixed. We not paying the remaining as nothing is being completed and meet our needs.
can't believe that 1 x common toilet door, 1 x island, 1 x ledge need 2months...

Edited December 26, 2017 by Clarence Lye

[Clarence Lye 10]

58 minutes ago, Ando Tadao said:

Since you are going for grey-themed home, these 2 tables might fit you:

https://www.castlery.com/dining-room/dining-tables/scarlett-table?quantity=1&length=1_4m

https://www.castlery.com/dining-room/storage-shelves/scarlett-console-table?quantity=1

 

the 2nd one looks nice, but too costly @ 600+ each. i need two of them.
and i think the depth might not be enough to be a study table as  i have printer and desktop monitor..

[Clarence Lye 10]

21 minutes ago, KFC1189 said:

I think your kitchen counter top is too cluttered. Do you have any storage space in the bottom cabinet to store your kitchen knives, chopping boards and frying pans?

there is, i temporary placed those stuffs there because my contractor haven fix my ledge.. 

Edited December 22, 2017 by Clarence Lye

[KFC1189 11]

On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 5:49 PM, Clarence Lye said:

 

 

I think your kitchen counter top is too cluttered. Do you have any storage space in the bottom cabinet to store your kitchen knives, chopping boards and frying pans?

Edited December 22, 2017 by KFC1189

[Ando Tadao 8]

Since you are going for grey-themed home, these 2 tables might fit you:

https://www.castlery.com/dining-room/dining-tables/scarlett-table?quantity=1&length=1_4m

https://www.castlery.com/dining-room/storage-shelves/scarlett-console-table?quantity=1

 

[Clarence Lye 10]

small little update:

 

island countertop came yesterday, the island height suppose to increase to 80cm, but instead - nothing was done. The height is still at 75-76cm.

The guys came to "place" the top on the island only, no adhesive was used at all. So practically, i can just lift the whole tabletop off the island table -.-

Anyway, here's the island on my momento wall:


Closeup of the tabletop:

 

Made some noise and complains to Justin (contractor for tabletop) as my ledge wasn't installed yet! (delay from last week till now).
I questioned him yesterday where is my ledge top, he said his carpenter guys already went down and install already. Guess what, THEY INSTALL AT THE WRONG HOUSE. seriously faint..

So outstanding from Justin is:
- installation of my kompacplus top behind my dish rack
- installation of kompacplus top on top of washing machine
- touch up on island carpentry (alot of chips, scuffs, peeling off. edges are not painted yet as well)

 

we initially also requested for quotation from Justin regarding study table and shoe rack (to be placed outside the house), but it seems like he's not interested. Despite us chasing him multiple times for the quote/price, he didn't get back. I guess, it's time to move on.

Anyone has any contacts to intro?
I just need basic study table that is not fixed to the wall, tried looking off-shelve but it's not cheap too.

 

I'm looking for something similar to this kind:

just simple and plain. I be putting them at the corner of the study room to form a "L" shape study table.
Any suggestions would be grateful.

Thanks all and merry x'mas!

Edited December 22, 2017 by Clarence Lye

[Clarence Lye 10]

2 hours ago, Rooney3 said:

Can share your contractor or ID pls? In the midst of planning for my own reno. =) thanks!

sure Rooney3, pm-ed u

[Rooney3 0]

Can share your contractor or ID pls? In the midst of planning for my own reno. =) thanks!

[bykaraanne 30]

18 hours ago, Clarence Lye said:

waa.. can share? lol i dont really buy stuffs from amazon.
my last item i bought is the Echo Dot. ahhaha

It’s the Singapore side one, u can always sign one month at $2.99 then unsubscribe? s$60 quite ok to hit for new homes. 

I would but u stay v far from me haha.

i use it to buy groceries etc also from Sg side and free amazon tv too