hi all,

i posted about my "expensive" toilet plumbing before.

this is the plumbing breakdown:

Plumbing works

To run new copper pipe at both toilet $450.00

To run hot and cold pipe for kitchen toilet(storage heater) $220.00

To supply labour to install kitchen toilet storage heater $80.00

To supply labour to install instant heater at masterbed room toilet $60.00

To supply labour to install 2 nos. of toilet bowl. $180.00

To supply labour to install 2 nos. of wash basin & Tap. $160.00

Labour to install Qty:02 set toilet accessories $120.00

Total $1,270.00

now my dear contractor added two more items:

To supply labour to install kitchen sink $80.00

To supply and run hot/cold pipe for master toilet basin $220.00

i want to faint! my kitchen tap costs less than $80 and he wants to charge me $80 for changing it for me! what is the market rate? i can don't ask him to install right?

and my master toilet basin, originally supposed to be cold tap only but i had a tap mixer so ask him to run hot/cold. and i get slapped with $220?

i am not well-versed in plumbing quotations but i can't help but feel it is a rip off!

the job is done then he quote the $220. what is a reasonable amount charged by plumbers for this. i don't need the lowest price but average?

no more jobs for this contractor.

appreciate any input, many thanks!

hi all,

i posted about my "expensive" toilet plumbing before.

this is the plumbing breakdown:

Plumbing works

To run new copper pipe at both toilet $450.00

To run hot and cold pipe for kitchen toilet(storage heater) $220.00

To supply labour to install kitchen toilet storage heater $80.00

To supply labour to install instant heater at masterbed room toilet $60.00

To supply labour to install 2 nos. of toilet bowl. $180.00

To supply labour to install 2 nos. of wash basin & Tap. $160.00

Labour to install Qty:02 set toilet accessories $120.00

Total $1,270.00

now my dear contractor added two more items:

To supply labour to install kitchen sink $80.00

To supply and run hot/cold pipe for master toilet basin $220.00

i want to faint! my kitchen tap costs less than $80 and he wants to charge me $80 for changing it for me! what is the market rate? i can don't ask him to install right?

and my master toilet basin, originally supposed to be cold tap only but i had a tap mixer so ask him to run hot/cold. and i get slapped with $220?

i am not well-versed in plumbing quotations but i can't help but feel it is a rip off!

the job is done then he quote the $220. what is a reasonable amount charged by plumbers for this. i don't need the lowest price but average?

no more jobs for this contractor.

appreciate any input, many thanks!

time to change contractor...this guy is chopping you like carrots...

ah seng 96736346 (got this plumber from genova...installed my 1x toiletbowl sweeswee for $80)

Wah.. ...I thought mine was expensive.

I was charged $1300 (in mid-2006) for the following plumbing works:

- dismantle existing 2 nos. wc, 1 no. wash basin, 1 no. vanity basin.

- install new 2 nos. wc, 1 no. wash basin(common toilet), 1 no. vanity basin (MBR), 2 nos. basin mixer (both bathrooms), 2 nos. instant heater (both bathrooms), 1 no. sink mixer (kitchen), 2 nos. shatafas (both bathrooms).

- change existing pvc piping to stainless steel piping (same length as default initial HDB pipings) inclusive of abt 23 elbow and t-joints.

- inclusive of installing all bath accessories for both bathrooms.

End work was done swee-swee.

Edited September 6, 200719 yr by gendon

time to change contractor...this guy is chopping you like carrots...

ah seng 96736346 (got this plumber from genova...installed my 1x toiletbowl sweeswee for $80)

i did go round Genova building a few times, there was no where to park! i called them, they told me their WC range from $130 - $800.

this contractor is getting :fire: i have cut all carpentry and everything else i can cut, i cut.

question bro MaCe, the $220 for the hot/cold pipe for basin in MBR Toilet - not justifiable right? all the pipes being run in two toilets for $450, just one extra hot pipe for one basin cannot be $220??

anyone with plumbing experience can help me out here? what is a reasonable quote for that additional hot pipe? pleeeease?

Wah.. ...I thought mine was expensive.

I was charged $1300 (in mid-2006) for the following plumbing works:

- dismantle existing 2 nos. wc, 1 no. wash basin, 1 no. vanity basin.

- install new 2 nos. wc, 1 no. wash basin(common toilet), 1 no. vanity basin (MBR), 2 nos. basin mixer (both bathrooms), 2 nos. instant heater (both bathrooms), 1 no. sink mixer (kitchen), 2 nos. shatafas (both bathrooms).

- change existing pvc piping to stainless steel piping (same length as default initial HDB pipings) inclusive of abt 23 elbow and t-joints.

- inclusive of installing all bath accessories for both bathrooms.

End work was done swee-swee.

thanks for sharing gendon! all info appreciated coz i know i'm being ripped off by my contractor coz i'm cutting out a lot of other things so he's probably trying to squeeze me any where else he can!

anyone can pleeeease? what is a reasonable amount for running ONE extra hot pipe to the MBR toilet basin? $220 just doesn't sound right.

any suggestions appreciated.... thank you!

hmm, my contractor charged me $80 for each hot water pipe

hmm, my contractor charged me $80 for each hot water pipe

thanks for sharing applefreak! i will tell the contractor his $220 is asking for the sky. he had given me $200 discount off total bill. i think he is just trying to add back the $200 in some ways now coz i have chopped off a lot of things from the final works.

for installing kitchen sink TAP only (cannot remove the sink), is it difficult to do? don't want to pay him $80 to install a less than $80 sink tap!

just fyi, my contractor chargin $100 to install the sink mixer with connecting and extending the piping

thanks for sharing applefreak! i will tell the contractor his $220 is asking for the sky. he had given me $200 discount off total bill. i think he is just trying to add back the $200 in some ways now coz i have chopped off a lot of things from the final works.

for installing kitchen sink TAP only (cannot remove the sink), is it difficult to do? don't want to pay him $80 to install a less than $80 sink tap!

how much have you paid him? better change another contractor NOW than to regret later.

one bl**dy pipe $200 - pure gold ah? or from Prada/LV ?

how much have you paid him? better change another contractor NOW than to regret later.

one bl**dy pipe $200 - pure gold ah? or from Prada/LV ?

already! finish existing works say bye bye!

i also he take us for fools...

just fyi, my contractor chargin $100 to install the sink mixer with connecting and extending the piping

xie xie ni! i know what to do now. thanks, really appreciate you take time to share with me!

you're most welcome

Edited September 7, 200719 yr by applefreak

i want to update anyone following this thread about what my fabulous *hack* contractor said about the piping cost after i emailed him and said his $220 was ridiculous.

"sorry sorry, wo3 kan4 zhuo4"

translation: "Sorry Sorry, i saw wrongly"

HAHAHA. deserve to or not? CANNOT MAKE IT!

so the $220 is reduced to $80 (thanks to everyone who shed light on this for me, especially Applefreak!)

and the kitchen tap was already installed when i went to inspect this morning BUT it was shaky! i call him and tell him uninstall can? the shop i bought from will do it for me FOC!

he said cannot, labour already put in, the plumber will still charge him, and will reinstall for me make sure not shaky. so reduce to $60.

i let it be, really can't be bothered with him anymore.

worse thing is dunno which worker poured some sand/whatever into my newly installed WC yesterday. must be the cornice/plaster/paint workers (i chopped the painting works coz the subcon boss gave me all sorts of crap not to use my chosen Medifresh 3-in-1 when we have already topped up for it)

i tell the main con - u guarantee u can clean it off or else u give me a new WC.

really with him!

time to change contractor...this guy is chopping you like carrots...

ah seng 96736346 (got this plumber from genova...installed my 1x toiletbowl sweeswee for $80)

Just called Ah Seng to arrange for him to change the Ikea wash basin and cabinet for the new ones.

worse thing is dunno which worker poured some sand/whatever into my newly installed WC yesterday.

i tell the main con - u guarantee u can clean it off or else u give me a new WC.

really with him!

the only way to clear all those sand is to change a new toiletbowl sorry, cos even if they manage to flush it down with hi water jet. the sand will still end up at the sewer pipe's next "curve" - hopefully it's only a little - if not sooner or later your toilet bowl cannot flush liao. then wats next, you gonna go hack open the sewer pipe and remove the sand in your neighbour's house(below)?

subcon workers usually do this to SABO main con - for not paying up. this is a old trick liao.

You're seeing this as a battle between you and the contractor. It's a win-lose situation now. What's the point of going on like that?

There's only two reasons why things turned out like this:

a. He's dishonest and out to swindle you

b. You're unreasonable and asking for too much and paying too little.

You need to figure out which is which.

More importantly, you need to change the situation, or change the contractor.

the only way to clear all those sand is to change a new toiletbowl sorry, cos even if they manage to flush it down with hi water jet. the sand will still end up at the sewer pipe's next "curve" - hopefully it's only a little - if not sooner or later your toilet bowl cannot flush liao. then wats next, you gonna go hack open the sewer pipe and remove the sand in your neighbour's house(below)?

subcon workers usually do this to SABO main con - for not paying up. this is a old trick liao.

wah! really ah? u r right, after chemical wash, the gunk is gone. the tiler told me it was cornice powder, not sand. hopefully this is the end of it.